Comments Thread For: Klitschko's Cutman on Wladimir Poisoned, Briggs' Asthma

[IMDAZED]

I wish they would let that ****** **** go.

[Tiozzo]

No doubt!
The blood tests were made,they were available and they didn't reveal nothing,that is the reason why they don't have nothing to backup this ridiculous claim.This is terrible propaganda who hurts the k brothers.
Last week Vitali said that he won against Lewis,now they come up with a ridiculous lie.This is getting ridiculous and of course crazy kids support their idols.The k brothers are instigating these lies and this isn't good to the sport.
Wlad threw too many punches against Brewster and he started losing too much energy, he simply gassed out completely,because he was unable to control the rhythm.



Dr. Margaret Goodman is the chairwoman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission's medical advisory board and has, since the appointment of Dr. Flip Homansky to the NSAC, served as Nevada's chief ringside physician. She was in the ring and attending to Klitschko seconds after Byrd stopped the fight.

"When I got to the ring Wladimir initially seemed alert and responsive," recalled Goodman, "but then back in the corner he began to exhibit changes. He seemed increasingly lethargic, and within a few minutes became less responsive to questioning."

Dr. Goodman ascribed this to a "transitory loss of consciousness" - in layman's terms, Wladimir was "out on his feet."

"There was an inequality in the pupils," said Goodman, who recognized this as another cause for concern.

"My immediate concern was that there might be a cerebral injury - either bleeding or swelling on the brain," she said. "Or possibly, he had been hit directly in the eye."

Under Goodman's instruction, Klitschko was immediately transported by ambulance to the trauma center at the University Medical Center in Las Vegas. He was accompanied on this journey by EMTs, by a neurologist, Dr. Albert Capanna, by Vitali Klitschko, and by Emanuel Steward (whose name is somewhat bewilderingly spelled "Emmanuel" in Burstein's letter to the US Attorney's office).

On the short trip to the hospital Klitschko was fitted with an IV, a standard precautionary measure in emergency-room situations like this, simply because should the worst happen, the IV will already be in place; were the patient to, just for instance, suddenly go into convulsions it would be much more difficult to hook him up to an IV.

Under normal circumstances the standard IV would be a D5½NS, which includes a glucose solution. Dr. Goodman was not in the ambulance but noted that "we usually don't use glucose" in connection with potential brain injuries. Still, it is entirely possible that Wladimir Klitschko was either given D5½NS, or, if the EMTs feared a hypoglycemic reaction, they might pushed an ampule of an even more heavily concentrated glucose substance called D50 to replenish Klitschko's blood sugar. It may well have been that the EMTs, who are NOT brain surgeons, administered the most handy available IV. Either would certainly explain the subsequent - and temporary - elevation in his blood sugar.

"We don't know what was in the IV," said Dr. Goodman.

At the hospital Klitschko was administered a full battery of tests, including a CAT scan, and the pupil inequality resolved on its own. To Goodman's relief her initial diagnosis of a Grade 3 concussion was confirmed and her fears of more serious cerebral injury were not. Following the brain examinations, several other routine procedures were followed. All were normal save the blood-sugar level, which was 232, which physicians uniformly agree was "elevated, but not dangerous."

Despite having ruled out their gravest fears, attending physicians wanted Klitschko to remain in the hospital overnight for observation - for the concussion, NOT for the blood sugar, which at that point wasn't even a concern. Dr. Wladimir Klitschko at this point conferred with Dr. Vitali Klitschko and decided to check himself out of the hospital. After signing a form that he was doing so "against medical advice," the two Klitschkos left, accompanied by Steward.

The next morning they had contacted an independent lab called Quest and had repeat blood work done. Everything was normal, including the sugar level. They requested the specimens from UMH and were given the proper phone numbers and instructions for the protocol involved in obtaining these. Although this information was repeatedly provided to the Klitschkos and their representatives over the next several days, they never followed through.

Although blood work and lab specimens which have yielded positive results would be preserved, samples whose results were unremarkable and normal would routinely be disposed of in a week to ten days. The Klitschko camp was provided with phone numbers and ample warning, but in the absence of a response the samples were destroyed.
"The truth of what happened to Mr. Klitschko" is that he got smacked upside the head by Mr. Brewster. And what would have been highly irregular would have been the preservation of the specimens after the normal expiration period.

The independent lab work done for the Klitschkos by Quest tested for over 100 substances, and even included a toxicology scan on Wladimir's boxing trunks, which were thoughtfully provided to the lab the next day.


Between Quest's tests and those done at UMH after the fight, the only remotely abnormal result was the blood sugar level drawn after the CAT scan had been completed, and that had resolved by the next morning. The 232 level - again, "elevated but not dangerous" - could have several possible explanations, but the IV in the ambulance remains the most likely one.

In other words, if Klitschko (and Burstein, who ought to know better) are going to throw around charges of "foul play," let's hear some specifics. What mysterious substance is this that would cause Wladimir to get his ass kicked and then disappear altogether?

"How come all of the screens have been normal and nothing has come up?" said Dr. Goodman to the Las Vegas Review Journal's Ross Feour last week after Burstein went public with his letter.

Noting that Klischko had nearly knocked Brewster out in the fourth round, she asked "How could a drug be that transient? Why wouldn't the tests be more abnormal? How come nothing is showing anything?"

"What is it," Goodman asked us over the weekend, "that they THINK he was given?"
The assembled evidence suggests that Wladmir Klitschko ought to be grateful for the medical assistance with which he was provided and thankful for his physical safety. Instead he continues to whine like a child.

And it's not as if this hasn't happened before. Did somebody slip Wladimir a mickey before the Corrie Sanders fight? Was he drugged against Ross Purrity? Was it some mysterious substance that made Vitali against Chris Byrd? Was Lennox Lewis able to bust up

Vitali because his gloves were loaded?

Oops, sorry. Forget that last one. Judd Burstein represented LENNOX back then.

great post, but you should cite your source

[Tiozzo]

The last time I watched Wlad-Brewster I, which is recently, I watched it particularly to spot any signs that Wlad was poisoned or if something else happened.

I watched it in HD the last time and I had RJJ's commentary. It helped quite a bit.

Here are my conclusions :

- Wlad was too aggressive from the beginning, and his high level of aggressivity and workrate were meant to smother Brewster's own offence.

- Brewster occasionnaly landed some big punches to the body and a couple upstairs. If you add those punches to the body (and Brewster can ****) to the fact that Wlad was already punching too much and using too much power in every one of his shots, you'll get a man tiring even faster.

- Brewster appeared to be ready to go on a couple of occasions, hence making Wlad spend even more energy to put him away.

- When Wlad had spent that much energy and Brewster was still there, the fight was then up for grabs for Brewster, and RJJ wisely called it before it happened, it would take only a couple of solid punches to knock out Wlad being as fatigued as he was (his own fault). That's exactly what happened : Brewster landed a couple hard punches in the 5th, and the fight was over.

- People used to say Wlad became tired all of a sudden, which is not true. We could see the progression of his fatigue round by round. RJJ also pointed at the fact that Wlad would punch himself out early in the bout.

- We mustn't forget Wlad had punched himself out in the past too, against Puritty, and that any fighter the size of Wlad who is punching like a mad man to put away his opponent will gas rather quickly.


Brewster said it himself : he won this fight with his heart. He had the heart to go through Wlad's barrage of punches, and when he did, the fight was his.

[Weltschmerz]

Wladi***** was definitely poisoned.....by cowardice. It's a poison that seems hereditary since it runs in the blood of both Klitchkos. Until one or both of them step up to the plate and challenge for the REAL Heavyweight Championship held by David Haye, they're both gutless turds.

Ha ha, that was a hilarious comment! No, really!

[guru]

i dont know what happened but wlad had never punched himself out so early in a fight. he did against purrity but that was after 10-11 rounds. he put a terrible beating on mercer for quite a few rounds and didnt tire either. it was just strange

[appollo33]

The last time I watched Wlad-Brewster I, which is recently, I watched it particularly to spot any signs that Wlad was poisoned or if something else happened.

I watched it in HD the last time and I had RJJ's commentary. It helped quite a bit.

Here are my conclusions :

- Wlad was too aggressive from the beginning, and his high level of aggressivity and workrate were meant to smother Brewster's own offence.

- Brewster occasionnaly landed some big punches to the body and a couple upstairs. If you add those punches to the body (and Brewster can ****) to the fact that Wlad was already punching too much and using too much power in every one of his shots, you'll get a man tiring even faster.

- Brewster appeared to be ready to go on a couple of occasions, hence making Wlad spend even more energy to put him away.

- When Wlad had spent that much energy and Brewster was still there, the fight was then up for grabs for Brewster, and RJJ wisely called it before it happened, it would take only a couple of solid punches to knock out Wlad being as fatigued as he was (his own fault). That's exactly what happened : Brewster landed a couple hard punches in the 5th, and the fight was over.

- People used to say Wlad became tired all of a sudden, which is not true. We could see the progression of his fatigue round by round. RJJ also pointed at the fact that Wlad would punch himself out early in the bout.

- We mustn't forget Wlad had punched himself out in the past too, against Puritty, and that any fighter the size of Wlad who is punching like a mad man to put away his opponent will gas rather quickly.


Brewster said it himself : he won this fight with his heart. He had the heart to go through Wlad's barrage of punches, and when he did, the fight was his.

If you have it in HD can you upload it somewhere?Thanks in advance!

[Majority_Draw]

so they timed the "substance" so that it would come into effect RIGHT AFTER klitschko had beat brewster for a couple of rounds, then he'd collapse?

[GlasJaw17]

Punching is only one factor that can fatigue a fighter. Being anxious or nervous in the ring is known to zap a fighters energy, thats why Toney, outta shape has he is, rarely gets tired. Wlad was trying to endear himself to fans at the time and was known as the heir apparent to the heavyweight throne. He was already getting anxious. Wlad was also knocking out foes a lot back then and prolly thought he could steam roll Brewster. Brewster was hurt and Wlad spent his energy trying to finish all while being anxious. Its obvious he was just fatigued. One more point, when you are prone to being hurt, you tend to be a lil more anxious about incoming blows, using even more energy in defensive pursuits. Look at the first Peter fight, Wlads legs turned to spaghetti every time Peter threw a punch.

[GlasJaw17]

so they timed the "substance" so that it would come into effect RIGHT AFTER klitschko had beat brewster for a couple of rounds, then he'd collapse?

Let's not forget that same magical "substance" could disappear in a tox screen directly after.

[COVID-19]

Excuses, excuses!