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  • I think Edwin Valero hits harder then Tyson and both Klitcshkos, Why? cuz Valero has 100% KO ratio.

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    • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
      Wlad's chin is underrated.

      And Wlad is 1,000,000,000,000,000 times better than Tucker.

      Another ******ed comparison.
      no he's not. wlads not that good. He's been sparked before. He hits harder than Tucker that's about it. Tucker was quicker and tougher.

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      • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
        Agreed. Wlad hits harder than Tyson

        Wlad is one of the hardest punchers of all time. He has devastating one-punch KO power in both hands.

        "Wladimir is the hardest puncher I have ever trained."-- Emanuel Steward

        "Wladimir Klitschko is the hardest puncher I have seen in the last 30 years." -- George Foreman
        Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
        You're a ******.

        Wlad has great footwork and amazing athleticism.

        Emanuel Steward: I could not train a man to beat Wladimir Klitschko

        Steward. “Wladimir is gonna be the one I don’t think I could train a man to beat the way he is. I’m serious. I’ve never had a fighter – I went from Holyfield and all the guys I’ve worked with, never, Lennox – Wladimir is a very, very committed, very difficult fighter to beat. Because he won’t let you fight him. He makes you fight what he wants you to fight. But the biggest thing which I think people are not looking at is his speed for a big man. Tremendous speed. Foot Speed. He can move in, explode, move out, move back in, explode, and I’ve never seen anyone that could…move in and out and be in perfect balance,”
        Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
        People who keep bringing up Wlad's losses are ******ed. It's like bringing up Pacquiao's KO losses. It's totally irrelevant.

        Wlad is just entering his prime. He has clearly improved greatly since those losses. He hasn't been down or hurt in over 5 years. He hasn't lost a single round in over 5 years.

        Wlad has a very impressive resume.

        - Most dominant fighter in the world

        - Has cleaned out the HW division

        - Lineal/IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world

        - Olympic Gold Medalist

        - 49 KOs in 55 wins

        - Has made 16 dominant world title defences

        - Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:

        Chris Byrd I (31-1)
        Chris Byrd II (39-2)
        Sam Peter I (24-0)
        Sam Peter II (34-3)
        Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
        Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
        Lamon Brewster (33-3)
        Hasim Rahman (45-5)
        Francois Botha (44-3)
        Ray Mercer (30-4)

        - has defeated tons of top contenders:

        Eddie Chambers (35-1)
        Calvin Brock (29-0)
        Tony Thompson (31-1)
        Jameel McCline (28-2)
        Monte Barrett (23-0)
        Ray Austin (24-3)
        DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
        Axel Schulz (26-3)
        Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
        Charles Shufford (17-1)
        Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
        etc....
        Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
        Vitali Klitschko:

        - has dominated every opponent he has ever faced.

        - 38 KOs in 40 wins, greatest HW champ KO% of all time.

        - great chin, never been down.

        - has never trailed on the scorecards.

        - only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing AND kickboxing.

        Vitali is almost 40 now, came back after a 4 year layoff and is still dominating the heavyweight division. His comeback record is 5-0, 4 KOs. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.
        Originally posted by have_not View Post
        From a interview with emanul steward talking about punching power: His views on Klitschko going forward:
        “I think based on this performance here and his own conversations with me in the recent days that he realizes that he is actually too reluctant, too intelligent, too technical—that I think you’re going to see a much more aggressive fighter in Wladimir. If this man actually would just operate with close to 80%—he’s only operating with about 60%—he would be the most devastating heavyweight in the history of boxing because I’ve worked with him. Never, ever, ever have I been involved with a fighter who has so much one punch punching power. Even guys that knock somebody out—they get them hurt, they knock them down, they get them groggy—Wladimir is the only fighter I’ve ever worked with that everything can be normal like a big party—everybody is having champagne, on the floors, in the tuxedos, with the music—and the lights go off completely at one time. I mean it’s not like a gradual dimmer switch. I never saw anyone who knocked out people in a gym when they block punches and he did that about three weeks ago with a sparring partner—two weeks ago, prior to the fight. With a sparring partner he threw a left hook, the sparring partner blocked the punch and with twenty ounce gloves he was still knocked out. He has unbelievable one punch punching power and that’s why maybe he doesn’t put combinations together because he punches so effectively and with so much power with one punch, but his handicap and problem is he feints too much. He wants everything to be perfect—perfect balance, perfect this, and the last round he was a little overly aggressive, got out of position a few times, but to go three minutes with a guy with his power is like a lifetime because even if he just grazes you with a punch, you’re going to be hurt.”

        His views on Wladimir’s punching power:
        “What makes him really special also is he has so much power in the late rounds. A lot of guys, great punchers like (Mike) Tyson, they were great in the early rounds but very seldom in the late rounds. Wladimir has knocked out guys like he did with Chris Byrd, and (Ray) Austin, and Eliseo Castillo—he knocked those guys out early because he threw a punch early, an early power punch. And then he’s had the power to go out after being down three times with Sam Peter and he had him out on his feet in the twelfth round of a very grueling fight with one single punch, a left hook. Then he knocked out Thompson. With Tony Thompson he ran across the ring and threw one straight right hand in the eleventh round and just walked away, and Thompson went down totally finished. Now he knocks out this guy in the twelfth round with ten or twelve seconds left with one punch. To have a fighter that has that kind of devastating one punch clean knockout power is so much stress on the opponent because you’re never safe.”
        You ******ed Klitschko haters should read these excellent posts in this thread before you post bullshit.

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        • I request the sources of these quotes, post the links or it didn't happen :P

          Tucker was quicker and tougher than Wlad, whether he was as clever is up for grabs, but he didn't have a punch.

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          • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
            You ******ed Klitschko haters should read these excellent posts in this thread before you post bullshit.
            I like the klitshko's they seem to be good people. I like Vitali more. I can't stand to watch Wlad though. He jabs his opponents to death.

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            • @ Steelhanner2010....Over the years? So you must be that "Wlad Ownes" guy from last year, right?

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              • Klitschko's better than Tucker (Tucker IS probably quicker and tougher though) but Tucker is for sure better than the bums Wlad are beating. Ray Austin, Sultan Ibrimigov, Ruslan Chagaev, Samuel Peter... U serious??? These guys wouldn't last 6 rounds with Tyson

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                • Originally posted by RossCA View Post
                  @ Steelhanner2010....Over the years? So you must be that "Wlad Ownes" guy from last year, right?
                  My Wlad Owns account was permanently banned. This is my new account.

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                  • Originally posted by X89 View Post
                    Klitschko's better than Tucker (Tucker IS probably quicker and tougher though) but Tucker is for sure better than the bums Wlad are beating. Ray Austin, Sultan Ibrimigov, Ruslan Chagaev, Samuel Peter... U serious??? These guys wouldn't last 6 rounds with Tyson
                    The Klitschkos would dominate and KO all of the bums that Tyson beat during his reign.

                    Klitschko Era >>> Weak Tyson Era

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                    • Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View Post
                      The Klitschkos would dominate and KO all of the bums that Tyson beat during his reign.

                      Klitschko Era >>> Weak Tyson Era
                      WOW you better delete that last statement or you will lose EVERY OUNCE of weight you had in this discussion

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