Wladimir Klitschko vs. Derek Chisora: who will win?

[Earl-Hickey]

Wlad early, Chisora has the arrogance of youth and will come to fight, hence getting sparked all the sooner.

[Steelhammer2011]

Bump for Steelhammer.



Debate this "****"

You already got owned in this thread. Now I'm gonna own you again.

Wlad/Peter II wasn't a "garbage fight". It was a highly anticipated rematch. Peter was the last man to knockdown and hurt Wlad. Wlad/Peter I was a very entertaining and dramatic fight.

Peter became Wlad's MANDATORY after Povetkin bitched out.

Peter is a former world champion who has wins over James Toney x 2, Oleg Maskaev, Jameel McCline, etc.

Peter wasn't "done". Don't let the Chambers fight fool you. Peter didn't even train for that fight and was a career high 265 lbs. If Peter was in shape, he probably would've beaten Chambers.

Peter was in great shape for the Wlad rematch. He was a rock solid 241 lbs. The rejuvenated Peter was very confident and motivated going into the fight.

Wlad dominated every round and brutally KO'd the iron chinned Peter. It was another great performance by Wlad.

You're just another pathetic Klitschko hater. You're always trying to bash and discredit the Klitschkos.

[BillyBoxing]

del boy has a better chance then any of Ks last fights. he can **** and hes quite in shape aswell. on dec4 wlad will win but the more tuneups delboy takes the better chance he has in this fight

NO!Chambers is better than Chisora,I'm not sure about del boy beating Peter,maybe yes now that Peter is def shotter than ****.

[The Hammer]

You already got owned in this thread. Now I'm gonna own you again.

Wlad/Peter II wasn't a "garbage fight". It was a highly anticipated rematch. Peter was the last man to knockdown and hurt Wlad. Wlad/Peter I was a very entertaining and dramatic fight.

Peter became Wlad's MANDATORY after Povetkin bitched out.

Peter is a former world champion who has wins over James Toney x 2, Oleg Maskaev, Jameel McCline, etc.

Peter wasn't "done". Don't let the Chambers fight fool you. Peter didn't even train for that fight and was a career high 265 lbs. If Peter was in shape, he probably would've beaten Chambers.

Peter was in great shape for the Wlad rematch. He was a rock solid 241 lbs. The rejuvenated Peter was very confident and motivated going into the fight.

Wlad dominated every round and brutally KO'd the iron chinned Peter. It was another great performance by Wlad.

You're just another pathetic Klitschko hater. You're always trying to bash and discredit the Klitschkos.

Excellent answer.

[kenso]

Well it is official that you're either an idiot and/or a Wlad dickrider. I think you're both myself.

I never post **** that is untrue. Ever, my track record on here would agree with that.

The problems is that you don't have reading comprehension. Never once did I mentioned or discussed "My rankings"

I said any respectable rankings. And, the croocked, garbage, corrupt sanctioning bodies are not respectable rankings.

Neither The Ring nor Boxingscene had Peter anywhere near the top 10 rankings and rightfully so.

Peter was done and it was a garbage ass fight. No credit to Wlad for that waste of time.

so whats your argument here? you think wlad should rise up above the nonsense and vacate his belt rather than fight someone less than satisfactory?

you know i would agree with your point - but targeting wladimir is pretty bias and unfair. why don't you target the other 50 titlists across or what ever who regularly fight mandatories to keep their belts, even if the fights are less than scintillating. i think the sanctioning bodies are pathetic too, but asking one single fighter to vacate is absurd. every IBF fighter would have to vacate in order to fully expose and get rid of them.

with that said - who else was AVAILABLE who WANTED the fight on short notice that would also satisfy a mandatory? out of that list, who was THAT much better than peter? who was even as deserving? peter actually was in fantastic condition - despite the outcome of the fight.

you act like wlad is ducking fighters dude - how many times has he tried for povetkin and haye? come on, don't be ******ed.

[jason100x]

Most likely this will be another Wlad breaking down an opponent with the jab and occasional right hand fight to win a TKO somewhere around Rounds 6 or 7.

[Earl-Hickey]

NO!Chambers is better than Chisora,I'm not sure about del boy beating Peter,maybe yes now that Peter is def shotter than ****.

I'd confidently put Chisora in with Fast Food Eddie tbf

[The Hammer]

Sam Peter was ranked in the top ten by both objective, computerized ranking systems:

Boxrec had him as #8 (now #10) and the the IBO had him at #7.

http://www.iboboxing.com/rankings/heavy.html

[jrosales13]

You already got owned in this thread. Now I'm gonna own you again.

Wlad/Peter II wasn't a "garbage fight". It was a highly anticipated rematch. Peter was the last man to knockdown and hurt Wlad. Wlad/Peter I was a very entertaining and dramatic fight.

Peter became Wlad's MANDATORY after Povetkin bitched out.

Peter is a former world champion who has wins over James Toney x 2, Oleg Maskaev, Jameel McCline, etc.

Peter wasn't "done". Don't let the Chambers fight fool you. Peter didn't even train for that fight and was a career high 265 lbs. If Peter was in shape, he probably would've beaten Chambers.

Peter was in great shape for the Wlad rematch. He was a rock solid 241 lbs. The rejuvenated Peter was very confident and motivated going into the fight.

Wlad dominated every round and brutally KO'd the iron chinned Peter. It was another great performance by Wlad.

You're just another pathetic Klitschko hater. You're always trying to bash and discredit the Klitschkos.

Nobody has owned me and your ******ed biased racist ass is too ****** to own me.

Peter was done, Who he did he beat after his back-to-back losses that makes you think he wasn't done? Nagy?

You saying Peter was out of shape for Chambers. Was Chambers in good shape himself? Don't be ****** and he still beat Peter. The Nigerian nightmare was done. If Peter was in shape and Chamber was in shape. Chambers would have still beat him. Don't be ridiculous.

No credit to Wlad, Garbage ass fight. It was not an anticipated rematch. Stop lying, it was a rematch that should came 4 years too late. It wasn't anticipated any longer. It was a waste of time.

Yes Wlad-Peter I was very entertaining. Full credit to Wlad for that win. Peter was a top fighter back then. But, how long ago was that? Exactly, he was done now. Like I said the rematch was 4 years too late.

Maskaev has been done. Toney is a former MW FFS's and still was able to be competitive against Peter in one fight. That tells you all you need to know about this "tough" "power puncher" Peter. That an old out of shape fat MW could be competitive with him.

I give credit to Wlad for beating Peter the first time, give him credit for beating Chambers, give him credit if he fights and beats Dimitrenko. So how am I discrediting him?

But, you bet your ass that I don't give him credit for that garbage ass Peter fight now would I give him credit if he fights Chisora. That would be 2 back-to-back garbage ass fights.

You can call me a Klitschko hater all you want. That don't affect me cuz it is just not true. However, what is true is that if Klitschko were a "****" you wouldn't be defending him for that garbage ass Peter fight would you?

Try again please, right now you letting the people of your ilk down by being inferior to a ****

[jrosales13]

so whats your argument here? you think wlad should rise up above the nonsense and vacate his belt rather than fight someone less than satisfactory?

Is Wlad not an elite fighter? Does he no have a name? So you damn right Wlad should rise up above the nonsense of fighting garbage fights.

you know i would agree with your point - but targeting wladimir is pretty bias and unfair. why don't you target the other 50 titlists across or what ever who regularly fight mandatories to keep their belts, even if the fights are less than scintillating. i think the sanctioning bodies are pathetic too, but asking one single fighter to vacate is absurd. every IBF fighter would have to vacate in order to fully expose and get rid of them.

Wait....wait.......wait. What makes you think I am only targeting Wlad? How do you know I don't target the other 50 titlists across? You must not be familiar with my history. So if you don't know what you're talking about then just STFU with that bias crap. I am not asking one single fighter to vacate. Never have never will. There is no singling out Wlad. I am asking all the elite fighters to fight top fighters period. Not just Wlad. So get familiar with my posts before you start accusing me with crap.

Now is Wlad not an elite fighter? Is he one of the joe blows that is a titlists? If he is a joe blow and not an elite fighter. Then you know what he can fight Peter all he wants and over and over. I will not hold Wlad to the standards that elite fighters should be held to. Because, Wlad is not an elite fighter he just one of the joe blows that have a title. So he should be held to those to those low standards. Right this is what you saying right Wlad is not elite he is just a jow blow?

However, if he is an elite fighter(which I think he is obviously you don't you think he is just a johnny comelately) then he should be held to elite fighters. And, get called out for ****ty fights. Just like Pac against Margarito. They don't deserve credit for wins like that. They're elite fighters should be held to elite standards and fight top fighters. Not garbage ass fights like that.

with that said - who else was AVAILABLE who WANTED the fight on short notice that would also satisfy a mandatory? out of that list, who was THAT much better than peter? who was even as deserving? peter actually was in fantastic condition - despite the outcome of the fight.

What is this about condition? If you not a top fighter it doesn't matter what kind of condition you come in. Peter was done, did it matter that Ali was in fantastic condition against Holmes? Did somehow cuz he was in fantastic condition he became rejuvenated and a top fighter all of a sudden? No when you're done it doesn't matter what kind of condition he comes in. Peter was done, and there are/were much better fighters than that version of Peter. And, what made Peter deserving? Oh I forgot cuz he beat the ATG Nagy...... GTFOH.... Solis even in out of shape poor condition is a much better skilled, talent, and fighter than a "fantastic conditioned" "Rock hard" Peter.

you act like wlad is ducking fighters dude - how many times has he tried for povetkin and haye? come on, don't be ******ed.

How am I acting like Wlad is ducking? This whole thread you just speaking out of your ass and assuming crap. Are Povetkin and Haye the only HWs in the World? Come on, don't be ******ed.