Why,why,why..would martinez-williams 2 be at a catchweight??please explain

[Blubba]

But you said he is trying to get to 147 and is no where near 160. Why try to get to 147 if theres nothing there for you?

Thats the point. Goosen just said not to long ago that no one believes Paul can hit 147 so they have to prove it first. Which is what I think Paul tried to do then nothing materialized and now hes fighting Martinez.

maybe they r lying about trying to get to 147.

maybe pac is trying to get to 154, wud u believe that? No, cus yr ***** lol

[Gorilla Dogs]

Goodness how many times must this be asked.

1. First, there is no confirmationfrom either camp thats it even a catch weight in the first place.

2. If there is a 157 pound catch weight my guess is that Williams is trying to give off the illusion that he can fight under 160 Pounds still.

3. Also he was trying to get to 147 Pounds and is nowhere near 160 Pounds right now.

4. Why would Williams ask for a catch weight that WILL NOT affect Martinez in any way?

Stop overreacting everybody. Larry you said it yourself hes fought at 160 over 15 times. So that right there tells you it has nothing to do with trying to gain some advantage as the NSB trolls are on a mission to prove.

LOL .... what a horrible post

I should sig it to let other ppl see hahaha

funny.

P Will doesnt want Sergio at 160 he knows he gonna get KO'd faster

[AntDawg]

Thats the point. Goosen just said not to long ago that no one believes Paul can hit 147 so they have to prove it first. Which is what I think Paul tried to do then nothing materialized and now hes fighting Martinez.

Ah ok I got ya.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Thats the point. Goosen just said not to long ago that no one believes Paul can hit 147 so they have to prove it first. Which is what I think Paul tried to do then nothing materialized and now hes fighting Martinez.

This guy is unbelievable. Williams is trying to prove to the world that he can make 147? lol what the *** are you on about? No one gives a *****

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

This guy is unbelievable. Williams is trying to prove to the world that he can make 147? lol what the *** are you on about? No one gives a *****

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405000

Goossen reached out to BoxingScene to respond, and he doesn't deny it - he is 100% focused on making a fight between Pacquiao and Williams - and he says it's no fantasy.

A rematch with Martinez will have to wait. Goossen, like everyone else in the sport, is waiting to see if Floyd Mayweather Jr. will accept a proposal to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Mayweather has to accept the deal by a mid-July deadline. If Mayweather passes, the two frontrunners to face Pacquiao are his promotional stablemates, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. Goossen believes his chances to make a Pacquiao-Williams fight are greater than ever, if Mayweather passes.

Mayweather's removal is not the only factor in Goossen's logic. Margarito is still banned from being able to box in the United States. On Friday the Nevada State Athletic Commission refused to grant Margarito's application to obtain a license to box in the state, which also prevents him from being able to fight in Las Vegas.

Goossen doesn't view a Pacquiao-Cotto rematch as an attractive substitute, because Cotto is only one-fight removed from taking a serious beating at the hands of Pacquiao. The Puerto Rican champion was stopped by Pacquiao last November in the twelfth round. According to Goossen, the only alternative to a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight - is a Pacquiao-Williams fight.

"Right now my concentration is Pacquiao and Williams. It's been no secret that we planned to go back down to 147, Paul's natural weight. We were looking to fight one of the champions, one of the big names...no secret there. Paul Williams wants to show that he's best in that division, or that he's just one of the tough guys in that division. We've got the best 147-pounder in the world in Paul Williams. The door is open. Knowing how these champions, these great ones think, that to be great - there is risk involved...a lot of it," Goossen told BoxingScene.com.

[Bastian Loc]

Tell em' Larry!!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=405000

Goossen reached out to BoxingScene to respond, and he doesn't deny it - he is 100% focused on making a fight between Pacquiao and Williams - and he says it's no fantasy.

A rematch with Martinez will have to wait. Goossen, like everyone else in the sport, is waiting to see if Floyd Mayweather Jr. will accept a proposal to fight Manny Pacquiao on November 13. Mayweather has to accept the deal by a mid-July deadline. If Mayweather passes, the two frontrunners to face Pacquiao are his promotional stablemates, Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. Goossen believes his chances to make a Pacquiao-Williams fight are greater than ever, if Mayweather passes.

Mayweather's removal is not the only factor in Goossen's logic. Margarito is still banned from being able to box in the United States. On Friday the Nevada State Athletic Commission refused to grant Margarito's application to obtain a license to box in the state, which also prevents him from being able to fight in Las Vegas.

Goossen doesn't view a Pacquiao-Cotto rematch as an attractive substitute, because Cotto is only one-fight removed from taking a serious beating at the hands of Pacquiao. The Puerto Rican champion was stopped by Pacquiao last November in the twelfth round. According to Goossen, the only alternative to a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight - is a Pacquiao-Williams fight.

"Right now my concentration is Pacquiao and Williams. It's been no secret that we planned to go back down to 147, Paul's natural weight. We were looking to fight one of the champions, one of the big names...no secret there. Paul Williams wants to show that he's best in that division, or that he's just one of the tough guys in that division. We've got the best 147-pounder in the world in Paul Williams. The door is open. Knowing how these champions, these great ones think, that to be great - there is risk involved...a lot of it," Goossen told BoxingScene.com.

I love when Burner thinks hes proved some sort of point but fails miserably

What is your point here? That they were talkin about fantasy fights that were never gonna take place....how does this justify the catchweight? You're not even making sense. All you're doin is drawing attention to the fact that Williams tried everything to avoid the rematch

[Chuckguy]

First fight was at 160 right??

Its for the 160 linear title not some paper belt

williams has fought at 160 more times than martinez right??

So whats this catchweight **** all about??


Theres no logic here at all

Its because neither one intends on staying at 160 andthey want to be able to still make 154 which is now the hottest division because of pacman

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Its because neither one intends on staying at 160 andthey want to be able to still make 154 which is now the hottest division because of pacman

Sergio dropped his title at 154 and why couldnt they still make 154 even if the limit was 160?

Seriiously some amount of bull***** coming out here

[shade darkar]

Dude Williams is fighting a Top 5 P4Pounder and the best Middleweight in the world for a 160 Pound ring title.

Pacquiao is fighting for a record 8th title vs a guy who's last fight prior to being suspended a year was at 147 pounds only to get brutally KO'd then to come back at 154 vs. a guy named Garcia who he looked bad against.

Did I mention that Pac is fighting for a record 8TH TITLE?

I know Pac fans took a beating but comparing this to Pacquiao is grasping at straws.

he didnt ask who they are fighting. he asked if williams is cheating history by trying to win titles at a catchweight.