Is anyone else TIRED of Catchweights and Title Fights with random weights?

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  • Clegg
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    #21
    The point is that boxers are using their strong position in negotiations to secure conditions that benefit them and disadvantage their opponent.

    Catchweights are one example. If someone establishes a reputation at 160, what's to say he's still just as good at 156? And therefore, what's to say you deserve as much credit for beating him. Catchweights mean that might not be seeing who the better fighter really is.

    So to me, this is part of the problem I have with it. It's just big names using their popularity to take advantage of their opponent. I'm consisent on the issue. I also disagree with people doing it when it comes to the size of the ring as well.

    If one guy is an aggressive, short, power puncher and the other is a fast, skillful, chinny slickster, then the size of the ring matters. That's why people had a problem with David Lemieux having a 15.5ft ring when he faced Ayala. It's also why people had a problem with Mundine having a larger than usual ring when he faced Echols.

    In both instances the two guys who won the fight were local/national draws who could afford to give their opponents good paydays. Because of this, their opponents accepted whatever ring size was in the contract. But what does it matter if both agree to it? Well, it matters because maybe in a different ring the outcome would've been different.

    Once you start using your financial leverage to ensure a ring size or a catchweight that gives you an advantage, you make it so that people are going to say 'well hold on a minute, maybe if this guy wasn't a big draw he wouldn't have that advantage, and then maybe the fight would go down differently'.

    Then a bunch of fans start going on about 'haters' when the reality is that the boxer himself is to blame. You want credit for a win? Don't bring people above or below their weight division just because you hope it'll hinder their performance. You want credit for a belt? Win the belt at the same weight that almost everyone else won it at.

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    • goldenglove2
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      #22
      Originally posted by solo20
      catchweight are crap only *******s support this i on the other hand dont it weaken the fighter while the other is at full strength bullcrap i say
      catch weights been ging on for years. way before Pac did it..

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        #23
        Originally posted by goldenglove2
        catch weights been ging on for years. way before Pac did it..
        no **** numbnuts

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          #24
          *******s love catchweights so long as pacquiao does...

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          • solo20
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            #25
            Originally posted by ThePrince
            A) Where are you getting your info from? Roach said he wanted Shane to go to 142 for a fight with Pac but they could negotiate 143-145, Shane said he couldn't make that weight, not that it mattered since Pac ended up fighting Cotto at 145.

            B) Like Shane, if a fighter feels he can't make a certain weight, he can negotiate another or walk away, simple as that. No one is forcing these guys to fight.



            How exactly is Margarito, a natural welter, going to be weakened at 151 (rehydrating to 155+ probably)? It's just a contract stipulation with one fighter's representatives trying to get any sort of balance or advantage in the bout. Cotto fought Clottey and won at 146... he was at full strength, right? Then he fought Pac at 145 and was obliterated, but he was weakened, right? What a massive difference a pound makes.

            Margarito is not a a natural welter no more he has said it my times when he came back he cant make 147 since the Mosely fight with out loseing strength . if catch weights didnt matter fighter wouldnt ask for them the whole purpose is to weaken a fighter period its obvious to me you have never train in your life to make weight for a boxing macth i have its a pain in the ass to lose 1 pound of pure muscle with out feeling the effects of it in the ring of course everybody reacts different

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