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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Sure Dirk, explain.
    Already have. Burners blatant duckage and your pleas of "stop whining" tell their own story.

    Its cool for Paul Williams to fight for the middleweight title at a cacthweight. Got it.

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    • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
      People dont see the difference between Pac and Martinez/Williams?

      You cant be this ****ing dense man.

      Pacquiao has a record setting 7th title in a catchweight fight that put Cotto at a disadvantage.

      Pacquiao is now fighting for a cacthweight vs a guy who was brutally KO'd, then was suspended a year. Who came back at 154 Pounds and looked like trash. Now Pac is fighting him at 150 for another record 8th title.

      Cmon stop acting ****ing ****** and arguing just for the sake of arguing.
      Yeah the difference is that Williams is fighting for the lineal title at a catchweight....

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      • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
        Already have. Burners blatant duckage and your pleas of "stop whining" tell their own story.

        Its cool for Paul Williams to fight for the middleweight title at a cacthweight. Got it.
        Sure is. Just like it was cool for Pacquiao to fight Cotto for a title at a catchweight. Didn't matter to me. Pacquiao-Margarito? Not so much.

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        • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
          Its not the same Cotto is a JMW now for a reason. He has lazy training camps and its hard for him to get down which is why hes always in that black sweat suit in every pic. Cutting down 2 pounds is different from Martinez who doesnt have to cut any weight at all. I dont think this is the same at all.
          Burner, Martinez weight in at 159 and 159 1/2 in his last 2 fights. Now the limit will be 157. My math might be wrong but that equals 2 pounds that he would have to cut from his previous 2 fights.

          Originally posted by Clegg View Post
          Pac's team certainly saw it as a disadvantage for Cotto, which is why they did it.

          2lbs does matter. Despite his financial problems, Floyd chose to give up a lot of money rather than lose those extra 2lbs for the JMM fight. Why? Because losing 2lbs is sometimes incredibly hard to do and can severly weaken a boxer and harm his performance.
          Well that is is like me saying that Williams team certainly saw it as a disadvantage for Martinez. Which is why they doing this.

          Where my point still stands there is no difference from this to the Cotto situation. When Martinez is going to have to weight 2 pound less than he his last fight. While Cotto was 1 pound less.

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          • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Burner, Martinez weight in at 159 and 159 1/2 in his last 2 fights. Now the limit will be 157. My math might be wrong but that equals 2 pounds that he would have to cut from his previous 2 fights.



            Well that is is like me saying that Williams team certainly saw it as a disadvantage for Martinez. Which is why they doing this.

            Where my point still stands there is no difference from this to the Cotto situation. When Martinez is going to have to weight 2 pound less than he his last fight. While Cotto was 1 pound less.
            Yeah but Cotto is "lazy"

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            • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              Burner, Martinez weight in at 159 and 159 1/2 in his last 2 fights. Now the limit will be 157. My math might be wrong but that equals 2 pounds that he would have to cut from his previous 2 fights.



              Well that is is like me saying that Williams team certainly saw it as a disadvantage for Martinez. Which is why they doing this.

              Where my point still stands there is no difference from this to the Cotto situation. When Martinez is going to have to weight 2 pound less than he his last fight. While Cotto was 1 pound less.
              Cotto was at a disadvantage.

              Martinez is not.

              There is a reason Cotto is a JMW now. We'll have to agree to disagree.

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              • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                People dont see the difference between Pac and Martinez/Williams?

                You cant be this ****ing dense man.

                Pacquiao has a record setting 7th title in a catchweight fight that put Cotto at a disadvantage.

                Pacquiao is now fighting for a cacthweight vs a guy who was brutally KO'd, then was suspended a year. Who came back at 154 Pounds and looked like trash. Now Pac is fighting him at 150 for another record 8th title.

                Cmon stop acting ****ing ****** and arguing just for the sake of arguing.
                Being for a record 7 title means nothing. What is the difference if he would of fought a catch-weight to win the LW and JWW title yet won the WW title at the limit. Will it be OK then since he won the record title at the limit even though he won 2 previous titles at a catch-weight?

                Pac-Marg is trash. That comparison should not even be made. But, the Pac-Cotto comparison is legit.

                If it is cool for P-Will and Martinez to fight for a catch-weight(IMO is cool) then it should be cool for Pac-Cotto to fight at a catch-weight. If the winner of P-Will and Martinez get full credit(I will give the winner full credit) than Pac should had received full credit for beating Cotto.

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                • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  It was no secret that he was trying to get down to 147 Pounds for a WW fight. Maybe something fell apart that we dont know about. Maybe even with Floyd perhaps.

                  If this fight is at 157 it gives the illusion to other fighters "that hey see look" Im not a 160 pounder." He wants to still be able to get the money fights he desperately wants.

                  I guarantee after he wins the Lineal Title if a big money fight comes up he'll drop whatever belts necessary to get it.
                  pacquiao isn't even a full fledged WW, yet you ***** about him doing catchweights of 151 pounds...

                  but pwill isn't a ***** for asking the MW champ a catchweight? wow

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                  • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    Yeah but Cotto is "lazy"
                    What Cotto fan doesnt know that about him? His training camps are bad. Thats one of the first things Steward said hes going to fix.

                    The hell. You are just flaming for no reason. Grow the hell up.

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                    • Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
                      pacquiao isn't even a full fledged WW, yet you ***** about him doing catchweights of 151 pounds...

                      but pwill isn't a ***** for asking the MW champ a catchweight? wow
                      I stopped right there. He is.

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