LOL So Williams Wants Martinez @ A Catchweight Of 157?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What a horrible parellel. Malignaggi vs Diaz and Hopkins vs Pavlik were non-title bouts.

Fighting for the middleweight championship has no historic implications?

And Im dense...

Man Im talking about record setting Championship wins.

Yes you are dense.

You think winning a record setting 7th and 8th title is equal to Paul winning his first lineal and ring title at 160.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Man Im talking about record setting Championship wins.

Yes you are dense.

You think winning a record setting 7th and 8th title is equal to Paul winning his first lineal and ring title at 160.

Man you could spin anything. I dont give a *** if its his 20th title, we're still talking about how he obtained that one title.

According to you, its ok for Paul to win a title at a catchweight but not Pac. Thats the issue. Stop dancing and diving around it. You're a hypocrite and have been exposed.

[bojangles1987]

It was no secret that he was trying to get down to 147 Pounds for a WW fight. Maybe something fell apart that we dont know about. Maybe even with Floyd perhaps.

If this fight is at 157 it gives the illusion to other fighters "that hey see look" Im not a 160 pounder." He wants to still be able to get the money fights he desperately wants.

I guarantee after he wins the Lineal Title if a big money fight comes up he'll drop whatever belts necessary to get it.

He was never going to get a fight with Floyd or Pac, he will never get a fight with Floyd or Pac, and you and anyone else trying to convince themselves there have ever been or ever will be serious talks about Paul fighting one of those two are completely deluding yourselves.

I know Paul wanted those fights, and made it no secret he would return to 147 to try and get those fights, but that move in of itself was ****** and a b*tch move considering he had Martinez and Dzinziruk to fight, or a rematch with Cintron to shut people up about that.

I don't have a major problem with the catchweight because it won't effect Martinez in the ring, but if Paul doesn't want to make 160 that's his decision/fault. He's already fought and beaten Sergio at 160, no excuse for asking for a catchweight now.

[THE REED]

At the end of the day....

The champion should be allowed to weigh in at the max limit.

I'm a huge Williams fan, I'll be rooting for him.. I think he will win.

But, it's important to stay consistent in your opinions, and I feel, as I always have felt.. the champion of any weight class.. should always be allowed to weigh in at the limit.

If the opponent feels he is better off weighing less than the limit, that is perfectly within the rights of that said fighter, and his own prerogative to follow.

[brick wall]

williams asking a catchweight mw fight against martinez is far worse than pac fighting marg at 151. williams already fought twice at middle so why is he asking for a catchweight? that's like pac asking another catchweight fight at welter eventhough he already fought their twice.

[bobfoster]

none of the belts mean **** anyway. so whats it matter if they fight at catchweight or not.

[mathed]

Well the fight is done. You betting on Martinez?

Yup!!!!..........

[Vasyl’s dad]

Al Haymon fighters,

always looking for ways out of fights.

[mathed]

The titles do matter IMO. Its Pac trying to cheat history imo. I heard even some of his diehards say that its cheating history. Thats my main beef with it. When you talk about breaking records and shyt like that then it its a problem for me.

Man, it's the same thing. Pac fighting for titles at a catchweight = Williams fighting for titles at a catchweight.

Only difference is Pac is moving up to weights he has never fought at before, while Williams has fought at 160 before. We could argue the details but the fact is still the same: this would be a title fight at a catchweight just as the Pac/Margs fight. I don't really like the idea of either one being for a title because the weight classes and their definitions are being tossed in the trash when every title fight is at some other mandatory weight limit...senseless to me. Maybe Pac is trying to cheat history...I think he should fight for the 154 title at 154

[Dirk Diggler UK]

End of the day, titles should not be contested at catchweights. Full stop. I dont care if its your 7th, 8th or 100th title. They should be contested at the weight limit. I just wish certain fans would have the balls to criticise their mancrushes and not just the fighters they dislike.

The bigger issue with Williams is that this is for the lineal championship, not just a paper title.

Also, hes already fought Martinez himself at 160 where he requested the weight of 160. And he supposedly "beat" him at that weight. So why ask for a catchweight?

I wont recognise him as Middleweight Champ if he somehow manages to win the fight.