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  • Khalid X
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    #101
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Whose talking about circumstance? We're talking about your backward ass logic regarding why Margarito makes more sense. And yes, YOU are that ******.
    You are......... for the simple fact that you're trying to draw a parallel between what happened in March as to what is happening now.

    Top Rank could take a fight that didn't do numbers back then because the circumstances forced them to do so. Now they have more options, so the fights they take now are being made with the thoughts of keeping Manny vs Floyd alive for next year.

    What that means is selecting a guy who will give them the chance to sell the most PPV buys.

    If the fight falls apart again, then I think any hopes of May vs Pac happening are out the window. Once that happens, then there is no point of Manny taken fights to battle Floyd's recent PPV sales.

    This is pretty plain common sense. Sorry for asking, but are you drunk or on something right now? Your comprehension seems off right now. I say this because I'm breaking this down about as simple as I can make it.
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      #102
      Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
      You are......... for the simple fact that you're trying to draw a parallel between what happened in March as to what is happening now.

      Top Rank could take a fight that didn't do numbers back then because the circumstances forced them to do so. Now they have more options, so the fights they take now are being made with the thoughts of keeping Manny vs Floyd alive for next year.

      What that means is selecting a guy who will give them the chance to sell the most PPV buys.

      If the fight falls apart again, then I think any hopes of May vs Pac happening are out the window. Once that happens, then there is no point of Manny taken fights to battle Floyd's recent PPV sales.

      This is pretty plain common sense. Sorry for asking, but are you drunk or on something right now? Your comprehension seems off right now. I say this because I'm breaking this down about as simple as I can make it.
      What you're saying ius utter bull****. Let's sift through your nonsense right now: What is the basis for a 50/50 split? how do you ascertain this number?

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        #103
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        What you're saying ius utter bull****. Let's sift through your nonsense right now: What is the basis for a 50/50 split? how do you ascertain this number?
        When Floyd did 1.4 mill against Mosley the last properly promoted fight Manny was involved in did 1.25. Those two fights were what gave Manny the right to ask for 50-50 because 150k more buys isn't enough to justify a bigger split of either.

        If he did 700K against Williams with proper promotion (2 months or so, and a 24-7) then he doesn't get a 50-50 split.

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          #104
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          What you're saying ius utter bull****. Let's sift through your nonsense right now: What is the basis for a 50/50 split? how do you ascertain this number?
          And why is that? Right now Manny is taking a fight with keeping the hopes of a 50-50 or even a 55-45 split alive. He flops this time around, then Floyd will ask for 60-40 split, thus killing the fight once and for all.

          Top Rank has to do atleast a million buys, and Margarito is the only guy out there that will give them a chance to do so.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
            And why is that? Right now Manny is taking a fight with keeping the hopes of a 50-50 or even a 55-45 split alive. He flops this time around, then Floyd will ask for 60-40 split, thus killing the fight once and for all.

            Top Rank has to do atleast a million buys, and Margarito is the only guy out there that will give them a chance to do so.
            So 1 mil buys will do it? What do you base this on? Would 900' do it? You're prob too slow to see how ****** I'm about to make you look. Go ahead, answer.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
              When Floyd did 1.4 mill against Mosley the last properly promoted fight Manny was involved in did 1.25. Those two fights were what gave Manny the right to ask for 50-50 because 150k more buys isn't enough to justify a bigger split of either.

              If he did 700K against Williams with proper promotion (2 months or so, and a 24-7) then he doesn't get a 50-50 split.
              Right. Can you show me your market research where you were able to surmise what Williams-Pacquaio would do?

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                #107
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Right. Can you show me your market research where you were able to surmise what Williams-Pacquaio would do?
                Well considering Williams has never been on PPV and the fact that he only has a handfull on fans on the internet, It's pretty safe to say it will be close to the same numbers as Pac vs Clottey. Pac will be the only person carrying this whereas with Margarito....atleast you have the Mexican fan base.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  So 1 mil buys will do it? What do you base this on? Would 900' do it? You're prob too slow to see how ****** I'm about to make you look. Go ahead, answer.
                  I said 1 million the minimum. Anything less and Manny is a$$ out and will get ****d at the negotiation table (which is why I feel the fight will be killed once and for all).

                  If he does 1 million plus then it's similar to Marquez vs Mayweather in which you have a draw fighting a guy who has a similar fan base behind him. Also both are considered shames by most, so the parallels are definately there.

                  I don't think that is a legit reason but it's something Top Rank can use to push for a 45-55 or even a 50-50 split.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
                    Well considering Williams has never been on PPV and the fact that he only has a handfull on fans on the internet, It's pretty safe to say it will be close to the same numbers as Pac vs Clottey. Pac will be the only person carrying this whereas with Margarito....atleast you have the Mexican fan base.
                    Please show how this is a fact. And also please answer my original question. Thanks. Try to use something tangible, not ideas you pulled out of your a**.

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                      #110
                      I think I pretty much did what I had to do as far as sonning you IMDAZED.

                      Right now I'm gonna take a knee and run the clock out.

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