EXCLUSIVE THREAD: PBF FANS ONLY!! Name 1 Fighter and Why who Could Beat MAYWEATHER!!

[JBell11]

I always thought Vernon Forest was a pretty legit threat at 147 & 154.
Burner beat me too it...Prime Winky would've given Floyd problems.

[RimmyDelicious]

You will always have one of those fights though like the Castillo. Doesn't mean he wasn't at his peak. Peak meaning you're at your best at. And, between 130-140 Floyd was at his absolute best.

Ray Robinson was at his best at 147 but him going life and death with Kid Gavilan twice means he wasn't at his peak? Yea Gavilan is greater than Castillo. But, Castillo is no bum. You will always have that one fighter/style that would give any fighter trouble. Doesn't mean you not your absolute best.

Duran was at the height of hiw powers at 135 and like Horus mentioned he had DeJesus who would give him trouble even beat him once. Oscar was at his best at 135/140 yet he was gasping for air and looking up at the time against John John Molina. So going life and death with a top fighter of that time doesn't mean that he wasn't at his peak.

His peak again meaning absolute best is at 130-140. Not 150....

Castillo's entire claim to greatness is based on him going 1-1 (in reality if not on paper) with Mayweather. He drew with (and IMO really lost) to Stevie Johnston, got KO'd by Corrales when the two were at their best, and lost to Casamayor (again, in reality if not on paper). That's not to say Castillo wasn't a very good fighter, but I have serious reservations about his greatness.

I thought Oscar was at his best at 147, he did his best work there, he got his best win there (Trinidad, I don't care what anyone says, that was one of the worst robberies in history).

Finally, Mayweather. If you think he was at his best at 140, fair enough. He didn nothing at the weight and in fact did next to nothing at 135 besides going 1-1 with Castillo. What I saw in Mayweather in his last fight against an old but still dangerous Mosley, how I saw him outmuscle, infight, and push back a man who physically strong enough to bully Margarito, says that Floyd was physically at his peak. Mentally, when he was challenged against Judah, Oscar, Hatton and Mosley early on, he made the kind of adaptions that he's never shown the capability to do earlier in his career when he faced adversity. He always came out on top, but he seems to able to switch gears and adopt entirely different styles of fighting now that earlier in his career he couldn't.

[V.WEBB]

I don't have much time to go in depth, but as I have always said (and my dad disagrees with me and he has known Pea since they were kids), I think Sweet Pea would have beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. The other guys that I see beating him (or giving him his toughest fights) would be SRL, Hitman Hearns, and Duran. Floyd has taken good clean shots before, but it think it would be brutal to take more than a few of those from the guys I just mentioned.

[RimmyDelicious]

I don't have much time to go in depth, but as I have always said (and my dad disagrees with me and he has known Pea since they were kids), I think Sweet Pea would have beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. The other guys that I see beating him (or giving him his toughest fights) would be SRL, Hitman Hearns, and Duran. Floyd has taken good clean shots before, but it think it would be brutal to take more than a few of those from the guys I just mentioned.

Whitaker did not have the power or the offensive arsenal to deal with Floyd. Defensively, Pea and Floyd had very different but equal styles and skills however Floyd has shown the kind of power and offensive arsenal that Whitaker lacked and ultimately that would be his undoing against Floyd. The same goes for other welterweight defensive masters such as Benitez and Locche.

[tredh]

While this is just opinion. A fighter can get beaten on any given night, but a fact that has been overlooked when it comes to Mayweather is that he's one of the most complete fighter since Ray Robinson. It's hard to find a weakness because he's a well balance fighter- high ring IQ, balance, timing, reflex, stamina, speed, quickness, defense, deceptive power, strategist, and discipline. On May's best night when he combines all these attributes...i really don't see him being beaten. I definitely see him in tough fights but ultimately being victorious. In addition, i think the weight at which he combines all these attributes was 140. Conclusively, i do believe age will beat him if he continues fighting, or even loses focus. I think he's at that point right now, because one can see that his love for boxing is fading, while a guy like Hopkins at 40+ still seems hungry.

Most certainly true. Father time is and will always be undefeated. I get what you saying bout his love for boxing but IMO Hopkins isn't hungry cause if he was no way would he have fought Calzaghe the way he did. B-Hop knows he can milk the sport for a few millions and has a hunger for $$$ cause of where he came from and he understands get it while the getting is good.

[tredh]

Castillo's entire claim to greatness is based on him going 1-1 (in reality if not on paper) with Mayweather. He drew with (and IMO really lost) to Stevie Johnston, got KO'd by Corrales when the two were at their best, and lost to Casamayor (again, in reality if not on paper). That's not to say Castillo wasn't a very good fighter, but I have serious reservations about his greatness.

I thought Oscar was at his best at 147, he did his best work there, he got his best win there (Trinidad, I don't care what anyone says, that was one of the worst robberies in history).

Finally, Mayweather. If you think he was at his best at 140, fair enough. He didn nothing at the weight and in fact did next to nothing at 135 besides going 1-1 with Castillo. What I saw in Mayweather in his last fight against an old but still dangerous Mosley, how I saw him outmuscle, infight, and push back a man who physically strong enough to bully Margarito, says that Floyd was physically at his peak. Mentally, when he was challenged against Judah, Oscar, Hatton and Mosley early on, he made the kind of adaptions that he's never shown the capability to do earlier in his career when he faced adversity. He always came out on top, but he seems to able to switch gears and adopt entirely different styles of fighting now that earlier in his career he couldn't.

examples please? Cause I feel fighting with broken hands and a messed up shoulder in different fights and winning is adapting when facing adversity.

[Hi-Dro]

Manny Pacquiao at 147...
The thing is that Floyd is ducking Pacquiao. When Pacquiao was free, Floyd wasn't thinking about boxing, but now that he has signed to fight Marg Floyd is talking ****. The fear is evident and if you think about it it is explainable. Pacquiao is the man to beat Floyd and Floyd knows it which is why he is ducking Pacquiao.

Pac man's angles and lighting fast combinations along with his relentless pressure and blidingly fast footwork is to much for lil floyd and he knows it.

[Calilloyd]

I don't have much time to go in depth, but as I have always said (and my dad disagrees with me and he has known Pea since they were kids), I think Sweet Pea would have beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. The other guys that I see beating him (or giving him his toughest fights) would be SRL, Hitman Hearns, and Duran. Floyd has taken good clean shots before, but it think it would be brutal to take more than a few of those from the guys I just mentioned.

Agree with everything here.

[Calilloyd]

Whitaker did not have the power or the offensive arsenal to deal with Floyd. Defensively, Pea and Floyd had very different but equal styles and skills however Floyd has shown the kind of power and offensive arsenal that Whitaker lacked and ultimately that would be his undoing against Floyd. The same goes for other welterweight defensive masters such as Benitez and Locche.

You've got to kidding. Whitaker threw twice as many punches as Floyd and was a much better body puncher. Have you seen him fight?

[Calilloyd]

So when was Floyd's peak then? He was 29 years old when he fought Oscar.

He was 30, not 29. Nice try. I noticed you tried to move Oscars age up one year too from 34 to 35. And Mayweather fighting at 150 was not his "peak".