Let's Give Calderon Some Respect In This Thread

[Sombras]

You shouldnt assume Im black. I can name more mexicans who quit in fights than any other nationalilty but for some reason mexicans are supposed to be warriors?

Thanks for avoiding the fact that I'm right, You guys are nothing but ****ing cheats and fight dirty.

[el malo]

Segura still fights dumb, doesnt compensate for stamina and we saw how that cost him in one fight on HBO. Just your typical mexican fighter.

yup pretty much. he beat calderon based on being bigger, stronger, and younger which gives him the advantage in the stamina department. its not shocking at all that segura won, i told my wife the same thing before the fight started. segura is nothing special just a wild puncher with decent stamina. as soon as he fights someone bigger, stronger, and younger than calderon with some kind of boxing skills segura loses.

[Dick Buffman]

Segura still fights dumb, doesnt compensate for stamina and we saw how that cost him in one fight on HBO. Just your typical mexican fighter.

Yup, and these "typical Mexicans" somehow keep fighting ways to win big fights by crushing the supposedly "more skilled" opponents.

Keep underestimating their skills at destruction and you'll keep being disappointed when your fighters are on their backs.

Do you deny this?

And comparing the sentiment for this fight to that of Dawson/Pascal is inaccurate.

I was one of the many that felt Dawson winning was a foregone conclusion. I admit that no doubt.

I thought Calderon could easily lose this fight. A fighter like him, when the legs go he's done. And I saw a lot of people feeling the same way.

I'm not gonna say Calderon is done...that's unfair to Segura. Calderon was game, but to say he's the fighter he was 5 fights ago is just wrong man.

Well, like I said, its easier to say this after a loss, but contrast it with the praise he got after beating Uribe a few months ago and you see how people change their tunes.

[Bhopreign]

Do you deny this?

And comparing the sentiment for this fight to that of Dawson/Pascal is inaccurate.

I was one of the many that felt Dawson winning was a foregone conclusion. I admit that no doubt.

I thought Calderon could easily lose this fight. A fighter like him, when the legs go he's done. And I saw a lot of people feeling the same way.

I'm not gonna say Calderon is done...that's unfair to Segura. Calderon was game, but to say he's the fighter he was 5 fights ago is just wrong man.

Not to mention Segura probably weighed at least 120 last night he was also rated ahead of Calderon, I saw quite a few picking him to win.

[fdotorres]

What Rican fighter has?

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[xcaret v3]

Not to mention Segura probably weighed at least 120 last night he was also rated ahead of Calderon, I saw quite a few picking him to win.

lol before the fight calderon was a god and was gonna outbox the living **** out of segura... now he gets ****d and segura doesnt get any credit.. pathetic people like you ruin this site

[savorduhflavor]

Yup, and these "typical Mexicans" somehow keep fighting ways to win big fights by crushing the supposedly "more skilled" opponents.

Keep underestimating their skills at destruction and you'll keep being disappointed when your fighters are on their backs.



Well, like I said, its easier to say this after a loss, but contrast it with the praise he got after beating Uribe a few months ago and you see how people change their tunes.

Many have been saying that for a while. People were impressed with the Uribe win BECAUSE he had been slipping. Not to mention that Calderon could fight at minimumweight and still be one of the smallest guys in the division.

[Eaner0919]

You shouldnt assume Im black. I can name more mexicans who quit in fights than any other nationalilty but for some reason mexicans are supposed to be warriors?

is there any particular reason why you took this the nationalistic route?

and before you state well he started it with the dirty black thing YOU started it by with the whole typical Mexican fighter thing. Any reason why you felt the need to say that considering Mexican fighters have evolved?

[fdotorres]

Sorry we don't hold,hug,cheat,headbutt like you dirty blacks do.

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[oc9979]

Ivan Calderon 13 fights outside of PR and New York. (Las Vegas, Colombia, Arizona, Oklahoma, Texas, New Jersey)
Miguel Cotto 15 fights outside of PR and New York (Texas, California, Nevada, Oklahoma, New Jersey)
Roman Martinez 9 fights outside of PR and New York. (Michigan, Florida, California, Maryland, Nevada, United Kingdom)
Juan Manuel Lopez 8 fights outside of PR and New York. (Nevada, Nevada, New Jersey, Illinois, Colombia, Connecticut)