Let's Give Calderon Some Respect In This Thread

[fdotorres]

lol before the fight calderon was a god and was gonna outbox the living **** out of segura... now he gets ****d and segura doesnt get any credit.. pathetic people like you ruin this site

who isn't giving segura any credit?

[Shadows]

Calderon's a really skillful fighter, he just ran into a fighter who wouldn't be denied.

Segura chose the right tactics and systematically broke him down.

[Bhopreign]

is there any particular reason why you took this the nationalistic route?

and before you state well he started it with the dirty black thing YOU started it by with the whole typical Mexican fighter thing. Any reason why you felt the need to say that considering Mexican fighters have evolved?

No disrespect at all, when I say typical Mexican, I dont follow the notion myself, but that statement implies the come forward fighter who is willing to take 2 or 3 to give 1. Thats all I meant, Segura did what he had to do against someone like Calderon who is always moving, my thing is I wish Segura would have kept his hands up more, I think that way he probably would have gotten Calderon out of there sooner.

[Dick Buffman]

Many have been saying that for a while. People were impressed with the Uribe win BECAUSE he had been slipping. Not to mention that Calderon could fight at minimumweight and still be one of the smallest guys in the division.

So I'm supposed to pity him cuz' he's small?

[el malo]

Ivan Calderon 13 fights outside of PR and New York. (Las Vegas, Colombia, Arizona, Oklahoma, Texas, New Jersey)
Miguel Cotto 15 fights outside of PR and New York (Texas, California, Nevada, Oklahoma, New Jersey)
Roman Martinez 9 fights outside of PR and New York. (Michigan, Florida, California, Maryland, Nevada, United Kingdom)
Juan Manuel Lopez 8 fights outside of PR and New York. (Nevada, Nevada, New Jersey, Illinois, Colombia, Connecticut)

good post

[savorduhflavor]

So I'm supposed to pity him cuz' he's small?

You're not supposed to do anything, I don't care what you do, but the guy deserves respect cause he's fought a few killers who were much bigger than him, and until last night has always came out on top.

And he fought his heart out last night. That's all I'm saying. You don't see me trying to discredit Segura, dude brought it and deserved the dubs.

The two brought us an awesome fight, no one should be complaining about anything. I am just simply of the opinion; fact really, that Calderon has been slipping for some time.

Calderon slipping is still better than 90% of the fighters on the planet, so it's still a great win for Segura.

[Eaner0919]

No disrespect at all, when I say typical Mexican, I dont follow the notion myself, but that statement implies the come forward fighter who is willing to take 2 or 3 to give 1. Thats all I meant, Segura did what he had to do against someone like Calderon who is always moving, my thing is I wish Segura would have kept his hands up more, I think that way he probably would have gotten Calderon out of there sooner.

cool

but understand my man that even if you meant no dis to anyone the way it comes off is a bit disrespectful in stating that a Mexican fight in typical fashion is a face first fighter when quite the opposite has happened. While guys like Segura and Ponce typify what the Mexican fighter was known for there are far more who hybrid both an all attack attitude with some actual boxing skill

those guys are now the typical Mexican fighter now

[fdotorres]

So I'm supposed to pity him cuz' he's small?

nope, just give him credit

[Bhopreign]

cool

but understand my man that even if you meant no dis to anyone the way it comes off is a bit disrespectful in stating that a Mexican fight in typical fashion is a face first fighter when quite the opposite has happened. While guys like Segura and Ponce typify what the Mexican fighter was known for there are far more who hybrid both an all attack attitude with some actual boxing skill

those guys are now the typical Mexican fighter now

I agree, like I said I dont follow the notion of typical mexican, I used the term though because most understand what the statement implies. Anyone who has read my posts know Im a fan of skills so Morales and Juan Manuel Marquez are two of my favorites.

[Bhopreign]

So I'm supposed to pity him cuz' he's small?

No just give a little respect for the little guy, imagine if you were always fighting bigger guys, its not easy.