Comments Thread For: Randy Couture-James Toney Results From Boston

[ChopperRead]

I know they did not box and if they did and Toney got his a$$ handed to him than I would have been impressed with Randy. But as it stands there was nothing impressive or surprising about Randy beating a fat out of shape James Toney at his own game. That is a Toney that should have retired from boxing years ago much less be out fighting his first fight in the UFC against a HOF fighter. To me this was little more than a circus act and Toney, as well as boxing, have nothing to be embarrassed about. The way I see it the ones who should be embarrassed are the fans who actually shelled out their hard earned money to watch this piece of crap side show act. And Dana White should also be embarrassed for promoting this garbage.

I think Toney hurt the sport we love quite a bit tonight. All the morons chanting "UFC, UFC" was a bit sickening. But I agree that this was a horrible card and that the UFC is little more than snake oil packaged and sold by chief huckster Dana White. White was still saying "Toney is in great shape" after he saw Toney at the weigh-in. White is a fraud, a con-man.

[GlasJaw17]

Agree. Please people, no excuses for James Toney. Toney threw boxing under the bus in a huge televised event and made the sport look bad. He will NEVER get another big boxing match and will be essentially blackballed for doing this. The notion that the Klitschkos are "ducking" his fat ass is even more hilarious now. Toney was very quiet after this farce because even he knows it's all over for him. Stick a fork in James Toney: he is DONE. That was his last big payday.

^^^THIS^^^ and the fact that Pac-May isn't happening, oh and also, the lack of significant matches, is all making our beloved sport grim.

[starjammer]

starjammer.....??... Get over it! He made an ass out of himself. Toney had no chance.

luxor?

I never gave Toney a chance. And he did humiliate himself, I agree. See, we're of the same opinion there.

I know I sound like I'm bitter, but that's not it. Speaking of MMA in general, I think submissions are a pain to watch.

Not for me at all.

Starjammer, one, the headline wasn't my headline, but your analysis is way off. If a choke is nothing, then, well, escape from the choke. The whole point of mixed martial arts is that there are several variables, many things you can do in an attempt to win.

Toney came in thinking he only needed to do one thing. Couture showed him that there's more to MMA... he transitioned from boxing to wrestling to submissions.

I never said a choke was nothing. Never said that. If I get one I'm going to sleep. I said a choke is anti-climactic and that it proves nothing.

I stand by that analysis. And that's why I can't get into the MMA. Because I can't get the art of the submissions, I can't appreciate the setups, etc.

That part doesn't interest me in the least. Each to their own.

Imagine going to see the MMA movie version of Rocky. Rocky wins by forcing his opponent to tap out. I'd be looking for my ticket money back

Believe me I get that MMA is all about the variables, I don't have to like it though.

You wrote a good article anyway, hope you don't think I was digging at it. I just thought that headline was off.

[ChopperRead]

What for ? Gettin knocked out ?
Almost 50 years old Couture's chin is faaaaaaaaar from solid and his stand up skills are far from the other UFC HWs. Let alone Toney's.

All of this is Toney's own fault. Couture only did what he is trained to do.

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Oh Foreal? .. Wait I dont give a **** about mmgay

[ChopperRead]

^^^THIS^^^ and the fact that Pac-May isn't happening, oh and also, the lack of significant matches, is all making our beloved sport grim.

Agree. No Pac-May, no Klitschko-Haye, etc. And now this worldwide televised kick in the teeth from Dana White. This is a bad year for our beloved sport.

[ChopperRead]

Oh Foreal? .. Wait I dont give a **** about mmgay

Is that Misfits-era Glenn Danzig in your avatar?

[DLjunky]

Watched the fight...not a surprise. I mean if it's your first fight in the sport are you going to fight a Hall of Famer?! No you start from the bottom and fight with the beginners!
It's like putting in a boxing debut guy in with Hopkins, Mosley, Pacquiao, Mayweather and etc.....
Anyways not trying to make an excuse for James Toney because he was being so ****y. He deserved it.

[Mr. David]

Starjammer, apologies for any 'tude on my part. I'm starving and waiting for this post-fight presser to get going.

But I've got to tease you. You didn't say a choke is nothing... but you said it means nothing? You got to admit that distinction's a bit funny.

Yes, if there's nothing to a fight but a guy shooting in and getting caught in a guillotine choke, that's anticlimactic.

But if a fighter can get dominant position and completely prevent someone from doing anything else and then get a submission, that's good work.

As I've always said in the tired MMA vs. boxing debate, it's a matter of taste. If you don't like MMA, that's fine. Some MMA fans don't like boxing. Some of us like both.

What we enjoy in life is all about taste. Me, I don't like sappy romantic movies, so I don't watch 'em.

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Is that Misfits-era Glenn Danzig in your avatar?

Now what the **** does Glenn Danzig have anything to with that? please explain gurly??