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  • Ragnar Lothbrok
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    #81
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    The test had been done before.

    But, I find it kind of odd that a lot of inside people, people who were part of the negotiation team. Are giving the blame slightly to Floyd. Yet his fans and people who were not involved at all still refuses to believe it. Why, I have no idea. In the first negotiations the blame was slightly towards to Pac by people who were involved, now is on Floyd by people who were involved.

    Fact is this are the two biggest divas in the sport. It is going to be very hard for this fight to get made. Because, neither would bend on their demands. And, if they do they will create a new demand to try and one up the other. They're not the first divas in boxing and won't be the last.

    I am getting tired of both, I blame both. And, I really am wanting for both to kinda retire soon.

    usada testing has been done prior to the first pac floyd negotiations?

    what fight?

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    • sapaw
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      #82
      Originally posted by MrRolltide91
      didn't manny make most of the demands during the first negotiations?

      when did floyd have complete control?
      what demands?

      1. Weight Penalty - STANDARD on NSAC Rule Book
      STANDARD - if the weight penalty is not discussed, it means they will go on NSAC rules which is the governing body and according to NSAC Rule Book, 25% of the guaranteed purse per lb. Is 10M 25% of 40M which is the guaranteed purse of both fighters?

      2. Ring Size - STANDARD NSAC Rule Book

      3. Glove sizes - Pac wear his punching glove and Floyd wear his pillow gloves... so both get their own demands.

      4. Date - March 13 - Did Floyd team ask this date?

      5. Full OST -

      If a fighter/team ask to go beyond the STANDARDS, thats the only thing it can be a DEMAND. If the other want to be on STANDARDS within Governing Bodies, for *****s, its a DEMAND! lol!

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      • GRUSTLER
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        #83
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Gruster why should floyd allow ARum to use him to market top rank fights? Bob did that **** the 1st time. By keeping quiet and going on vacation the only thing the media can do is talk about the fighters involved. I think floyd is playing this one exactly right.
        I mean from a business perspective it is very strategic, not giving
        them the time of day BUT it would have been good to expose Arum
        because all they did was turn it around on Floyd. I know Floyd
        doesn't give a $#!t but still, someone needs to expose Arum and
        his plans on deceiving the boxing fans with and through the media.
        Technically, Floyd did say something but after the deadline. He
        could just did it before. If your not going to answer then don't
        period.

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        • sapaw
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          #84
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          The 25% is standard, 10 mil per lb is not.

          GBP didn't sell JMM out. When the scale hit 146 they wrote up a new contract giving JMM 300k per lb over the 144 limit. JMM took it because if there was no fight he wouldn't get paid. JMM took the floyd fight ONLY for the payday, so it wouldn't make sense for him to not fight because of 2 lbs.
          what is 25% of 40M? unless floyd will agree to 75-25 split in favor of Manny then 10M will not be 25% of 20M.

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          • SocalBaller
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            #85
            Originally posted by sapaw
            you making yourself ******! lol! that weight penalty (10M/lb or 25% of the boxers guaranteed purse per lb) demand is STANDARD on NSAC rule book! its all over the boxing scene.. too bad, Golden boy sold JMM for only 600K! and too bad, you make yourself *****! lol
            You are partly correct. 25% is the default fee for failing to make the weight (so $10M out of $40M is appropriate) unless a lesser amount is agreed on...and JMM screwed himself by agreeing to less than 25%. The only difference is that it is 25% and not 25% per pound. While a per pound penalty has been done in the past, it was nothing like the $10M per pound magnitude. Nothing wrong with that clause though.

            leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec522

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            • MrRolltide91
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              #86
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              The test had been done before.

              But, I find it kind of odd that a lot of inside people, people who were part of the negotiation team. Are giving the blame slightly to Floyd. Yet his fans and people who were not involved at all still refuses to believe it. Why, I have no idea. In the first negotiations the blame was slightly towards to Pac by people who were involved, now is on Floyd by people who were involved.

              Fact is this are the two biggest divas in the sport. It is going to be very hard for this fight to get made. Because, neither would bend on their demands. And, if they do they will create a new demand to try and one up the other. They're not the first divas in boxing and won't be the last.

              I am getting tired of both, I blame both. And, I really am wanting for both to kinda retire soon.

              this is true.

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              • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                #87
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                I mean from a business perspective it is very strategic, not giving
                them the time of day BUT it would have been good to expose Arum
                because all they did was turn it around on Floyd. I know Floyd
                doesn't give a $#!t but still, someone needs to expose Arum and
                his plans on deceiving the boxing fans with and through the media.
                Technically, Floyd did say something but after the deadline. He
                could just did it before. If your not going to answer then don't
                period.
                the only one deceiving fans is floyd.

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                • MrRolltide91
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by sapaw
                  what demands?

                  1. Weight Penalty - STANDARD on NSAC Rule Book
                  STANDARD - if the weight penalty is not discussed, it means they will go on NSAC rules which is the governing body and according to NSAC Rule Book, 25% of the guaranteed purse per lb. Is 10M 25% of 40M which is the guaranteed purse of both fighters?

                  2. Ring Size - STANDARD NSAC Rule Book

                  3. Glove sizes - Pac wear his punching glove and Floyd wear his pillow gloves... so both get their own demands.

                  4. Date - March 13 - Did Floyd team ask this date?

                  5. Full OST -

                  If a fighter/team ask to go beyond the STANDARDS, thats the only thing it can be a DEMAND. If the other want to be on STANDARDS within Governing Bodies, for *****s, its a DEMAND! lol!

                  dude, floyd wanted one thing. flyod even agreed to a 50/50 split(i was surprised)

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                  • jbpanama
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                    #89
                    So the Testing Nonsense is HISTORY;
                    Why does the MASTER of AVOIDANCE,
                    keep PUNKING OUT???

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Willie Swindler
                      the only one deceiving fans is floyd.
                      Floyd does but to post that Floyd is the only one, while
                      Arum and Pac are angels, shows how bias of a boxing fan
                      you are.

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