Would Tito Trinidad ever have gotten beat down by a blown up featherweight?

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    #61
    Originally posted by retnuocllup
    floyd don't have the kind of legs that he used to at 130. tito can KO with the right hand as well.

    floyd possibly pulls it off, but if tito hits floyd flush like mosley did, tito would finish floyd off.
    maybe.....but i see floyd being too smart and boxing his way through

    if tito landed flush then of course he could knock floyd out

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      #62
      Originally posted by retnuocllup
      floyd don't have the kind of legs that he used to at 130. tito can KO with the right hand as well.

      floyd possibly pulls it off, but if tito hits floyd flush like mosley did, tito would finish floyd off.
      And Floyd got hit like that once in his entire career. Someone slower than Mosley isn't going to land something like that either, get real.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        Looks like you're running out of material already too, try again.
        maybe. but it's still my material.


        that guy was doing the generic "tough guy" "come to my city" internet threats on my profile and copy and pasting other people's internet memes.

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          #64
          Trinidad didn't move as much as I'd like him to, to give him a chance against a 147 Pacquiao. Right now, if you bring back the Trinidad that fought DLH[Prime Trinidad], give me the Pacquiao that fought Cotto and I would put my money on Pacquiao. Sorry but you need more than one punch against Pacquiao. Those who say Trinidad would win just say "If that left hook lands, it's over" well think, what if that left hook doesn't land? And let's not act like Trinidad was Pernell Whitaker Jr, he was hittable and he got frustrated at moving targets. He was at his best against fighters who would stay right in front of him. Pacquiao moves around too much for Trinidad. 35 year old Hopkins, against Trinidad, looked like Ali with the footwork. That was because Trinidad fought in straight lines. Like Hatton fought in straight lines too. Remember Mike Tyson wanting to work for Pacquiao in the Hatton fight? He told Pacquiao Hatton fights in straight lines and that he will be easy to hit. Same as Trinidad only Trinidad had better defense than Hatton and a better chin. Still a hittable target.

          And no don't be ****** and say i'm comparing Trinidad to Hatton, i'm not.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            footwork and long jabs bother tito. not really combinations.

            tito didn't have the best footwork.

            mate , i have every tito fight on dvd and i've seen almost every cotto fight since his 140 days.

            there's no way cotto beats tito. no way.

            that's talking hypothetical matchup.


            as far as resume goes tito is better than cotto as well.

            tito is above cotto.
            When did I say combo's bothered Tito? I said you could jab him to death all night long and thats all Cotto would need to do. I don't see how Tito's resume is better, I just don't see it...

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              #66
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Trinidad didn't move as much as I'd like him to, to give him a chance against a 147 Pacquiao. Right now, if you bring back the Trinidad that fought DLH[Prime Trinidad], give me the Pacquiao that fought Cotto and I would put my money on Pacquiao. Sorry but you need more than one punch against Pacquiao. Those who say Trinidad would win just say "If that left hook lands, it's over" well think, what if that left hook doesn't land? And let's not act like Trinidad was Pernell Whitaker Jr, he was hittable and he got frustrated at moving targets. He was at his best against fighters who would stay right in front of him. Pacquiao moves around too much for Trinidad. 35 year old Hopkins, against Trinidad, looked like Ali with the footwork. That was because Trinidad fought in straight lines. Like Hatton fought in straight lines too. Remember Mike Tyson wanting to work for Pacquiao in the Hatton fight? He told Pacquiao Hatton fights in straight lines and that he will be easy to hit. Same as Trinidad only Trinidad had better defense than Hatton and a better chin. Still a hittable target.

              And no don't be ****** and say i'm comparing Trinidad to Hatton, i'm not.
              pacquiao's footwork would give tito fits.

              he ain't knocking out tito though.

              that means 12 rounds.

              not inconceivable for tito to land something big in 36 minutes.

              let's not act like pacquiao is pernell whitaker either.

              pacquiao still gets hit. tito is still taller and longer. his in and out style could frustrate tito but he'll be in range plenty of times.

              unless tito is shot and dead at the weight like oscar was , he'll land something on pacquiao.

              with tito , sometimes one is all that is needed.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                When did I say combo's bothered Tito? I said you could jab him to death all night long and thats all Cotto would need to do. I don't see how Tito's resume is better, I just don't see it...
                well you were talking about pac/mosley's combo/speed.

                whatever.

                you do know there's a big difference between hopkins and winky's jab than cotto's right?

                hopkins is 6'1 and winky is 5'10-5'11. hopkins and winky's reach is listed at 75 and 72 in. (i think their reach is probably longer. winky has long arms)

                cotto is 5'7 and has what 65-67 in. reach?

                you don't think anyone ever tried to jab tito before?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  And Floyd got hit like that once in his entire career. Someone slower than Mosley isn't going to land something like that either, get real.
                  actually floyd has been hit flush more than one time in his career, but much less than most. fights that come to mind are corley, judah, mosley, castillo....

                  tito don't have the southpaw stance of corley or judah or the speed of corley, judah, or mosley... but if castillo (slow as he was) could cut off the ring and pressure floyd, you better be damned sure tito could do the same if not better

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    well you were talking about pac/mosley's combo/speed.

                    whatever.

                    you do know there's a big difference between hopkins and winky's jab than cotto's right?

                    hopkins is 6'1 and winky is 5'10-5'11. hopkins and winky's reach is listed at 75 and 72 in. (i think their reach is probably longer. winky has long arms)

                    cotto is 5'7 and has what 65-67 in. reach?

                    you don't think anyone ever tried to jab tito before?
                    Someone stated my main jist about Manny/Shane. They just move too much for Tito he is too basic of a fighter for them. You bring up a valid point with the reach, but Tito fights up close he may have had more success against Cotto than the other guys but I don't think he would have won.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by retnuocllup
                      actually floyd has been hit flush more than one time in his career, but much less than most. fights that come to mind are corley, judah, mosley, castillo....

                      tito don't have the southpaw stance of corley or judah or the speed of corley, judah, or mosley... but if castillo (slow as he was) could cut off the ring and pressure floyd, you better be damned sure tito could do the same if not better
                      tito is not a pressure fighter like castillo though.

                      i wish he was.

                      tito even though people makes fun of his skills (shame people are ****** , tito had solid boxing skills) was a boxer-puncher type.

                      tito wasn't a ****** slugger and he wasn't a pressure/workrate type either.

                      i wish he was. he probably could have done better against oscar , bernard , winky , etc. if he was.


                      tito had solid boxing skills and even though he depended on his punching power , he landed those power punches boxing.

                      that's why winky and bernard made tito look ****** with the jab.

                      tito doesn't punch unless he's properly set.

                      winky and bernard would just pop him with a jab everytime he tried to get his feet set.

                      if tito was more the reckless , slugger type he probably would have done better against them.

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