Would Tito Trinidad ever have gotten beat down by a blown up featherweight?

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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #71
    Originally posted by retnuocllup
    actually floyd has been hit flush more than one time in his career, but much less than most. fights that come to mind are corley, judah, mosley, castillo....

    tito don't have the southpaw stance of corley or judah or the speed of corley, judah, or mosley... but if castillo (slow as he was) could cut off the ring and pressure floyd, you better be damned sure tito could do the same if not better
    Tito doesn't know how to cut off the ring thats the whole point. He simply follows his fighters thats why he lost to Winky, Hopkins, DLH they moved jabbed, pot shotted, moved again. Tito has no clue how to deal with movement and a jab. As for Floyd... you just named 5 guys in a 40 fight career and the one from judah that "rocked" Floyd was only because Judah stepped on his foot. So you are only left with Corley, Castillo and Shane. If in only 3 of your professional fights you were hit hard then I'll take the chances that Tito would miss. Thats like 3/10,000 punches Floyd is a beast, Tito would never ever beat Floyd.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      tito is not a pressure fighter like castillo though.

      i wish he was.

      tito even though people makes fun of his skills (shame people are ****** , tito had solid boxing skills) was a boxer-puncher type.

      tito wasn't a ****** slugger and he wasn't a pressure/workrate type either.

      i wish he was. he probably could have done better against oscar , bernard , winky , etc. if he was.


      tito had solid boxing skills and even though he depended on his punching power , he landed those power punches boxing.

      that's why winky and bernard made tito look ****** with the jab.

      tito doesn't punch unless he's properly set.

      winky and bernard would just pop him with a jab everytime he tried to get his feet set.

      if tito was more the reckless , slugger type he probably would have done better against them.
      Well said my man.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
        Someone stated my main jist about Manny/Shane. They just move too much for Tito he is too basic of a fighter for them. You bring up a valid point with the reach, but Tito fights up close he may have had more success against Cotto than the other guys but I don't think he would have won.
        shane is not really a mover type , mate.

        people confuse speed with being a mover.

        shane was fast but he didn't really use it except to get inside and in combinations.

        shane would slug with tito. that's why i don't think shane could beat tito.

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          #74
          Originally posted by them_apples
          Oscar wasn't able to land a single left hook. Tito is good but there's a decent chance he could be made a fool of for 12 rounds.

          I'd give prime Oscar a better chance than prime Tito.
          Agree with this.

          Lol @ all the people that still think Pacquiao doesn't stand a chance against any decent prime 147 pounder. What more does the man have to do? I'm not necessarily saying that he goes out there and clowns Tito for 12 rounds, but to basically write him off is completely ridiculous.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            shane is not really a mover type , mate.

            people confuse speed with being a mover.

            shane was fast but he didn't really use it except to get inside and in combinations.

            shane would slug with tito. that's why i don't think shane could beat tito.
            I agree, but if anyone at 147 could do that with Tito it was Mosley and I'd favor Mosley. His chin is good, he has great power and he is much faster than Tito.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              I agree, but if anyone at 147 could do that with Tito it was Mosley and I'd favor Mosley. His chin is good, he has great power and he is much faster than Tito.
              maybe.

              it would have been a great scrap though.

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                #77
                Originally posted by RockyB
                i love when people do one-liner comebacks because they have nothing to say...
                actually i did reply to him.

                you actually have nothing to say.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  When did I say combo's bothered Tito? I said you could jab him to death all night long and thats all Cotto would need to do. I don't see how Tito's resume is better, I just don't see it...
                  I kinda see where your getting at, but the problem is your putting Cotto's skills up there with Bhop and Winky. Those guys are defensive fighters who were able to neutralize Tito's left for the entire fight.

                  Cotto doesn't posses those defensive tools. He gets hit far too often to deal with someone as powerful as Trinidad.

                  Look at how Bhop dominated Tito. Everytime he jabbed he made sure to keep right hand up and completely avoided Tito's left hook all while circling to Tito's right. Winky is the definition of defense. He stayed in a peek-a-boo shell all night meanwhile jabbing Tito. It was impossible for Tito to use his main weapon against Winky. Cotto on the other hand is not a defensive 1st type of fighter. He has decent pop, footwork, and a great jab, but lacks the defense to neutralize Tito's power shots.

                  Also you said that Molsey would have beaten Tito, but the Mosley that Cotto fought was a good 7 years past his prime. A prime Mosley would beat Cotto. Especially since a past prime SSM gave Cotto such a tough fight. You also mentioned that Cotto would have beat De La Hoya. I hate De La Hoya, but I'll be the first to admit a prime De La Hoya beats Cotto. De La Hoya was superior to Cotto as far as everyting goes. He did everything better.

                  Cotto just doesn't have the defense to beat Tito. He puts himself in bad situations when he get's caught. As soon as Tito tags him Cotto would go into his weird shoulder roll (where he leaves himself wide open) and get hit from both sides.

                  You need a great jab and superb defense to beat Tito. Cotto only has one of these.

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                  • CBR1000RR
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                    #79
                    pacs speed and footwork wouldn't be a problem for trinidad. if he could handle camacho's, i think he'd handle pacs. plus he had too much power.

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                      #80
                      NO........................ difference is PAC would actually step in the ring..............floyd would never dare to...................

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