what you all might be forgetting about muhammad ali

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  • madsweeney
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    #41
    Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
    klitschkos wouldnt have ever held any title in the 70's. theyre 2 hype jobs. just becuz theyre big
    Naw, prime Vitaly woulda hung with the big dogs back then, may have not beaten the cream of the crop but he'd give them fits.

    Wlad's chin just wouldn't have held up back then.

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      #42
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      Naw, prime Vitaly woulda hung with the big dogs back then, may have not beaten the cream of the crop but he'd give them fits.

      Wlad's chin just wouldn't have held up back then.
      gotta remmeber about vitali. a prime vitali got his ass beat by a 38 year old lennox lewis. that right there is telling you something man.....

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      • Wlad Klitschko
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        #43
        Originally posted by omarinbox
        And Ali was how old?

        Man you need to learn you can't shake Ali from #1 HW with Wlad's record.

        Theres no-one in the class of the fighters Ali faced in the 70s now so the case doesn't stand scrutiny.

        We are talking Frazier, Foreman, Norton here...all ATGs he beat when he was on the downhill.

        A beefed up cruiserweight is your best challenge and that doesn't stand up to the legacy of these guys and the depth of the division at the time.
        Oh the infamous Ali prime.

        I forgot, no one but Ali is ever past prime.

        Ali fought Frazier Foreman and Norton, a total of 7 fights.

        As a non-biased scorer, even forgiving jokes like Foreman losing even though he is clearly up at 8 and standing there wanting to fight, or Frazier being well past it, I score it:
        3 wins, (2 against Joe, 1 against Foreman), 3 Losses (1 against Joe, 2 against norton) and 1 draw (against Norton).

        That is unbiased as you get because I dont like any of them.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Wlad Klitschko
          Oh the infamous Ali prime.

          I forgot, no one but Ali is ever past prime.

          Ali fought Frazier Foreman and Norton, a total of 7 fights.

          As a non-biased scorer, even forgiving jokes like Foreman losing even though he is clearly up at 8 and standing there wanting to fight, or Frazier being well past it, I score it:
          3 wins, (2 against Joe, 1 against Foreman), 3 Losses (1 against Joe, 2 against norton) and 1 draw (against Norton).

          That is unbiased as you get because I dont like any of them.
          ali fought the best and didnt price nobody out in any fight son. klitsckhos are running scared of david haye. a blown up cruiser.

          klitschkos suck man. all they got is size. nothing else. they both have lost to journeyment fighters.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
            gotta remmeber about vitali. a prime vitali got his ass beat by a 38 year old lennox lewis. that right there is telling you something man.....
            Vitali was winning the fight but that was some nasty ass cut. Lewis would have also hung with the big dogs in the 70's. Don't make it seem like these guys couldn't hang with at least the gatekeepers back then.

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              #46
              Originally posted by madsweeney
              Vitali was winning the fight but that was some nasty ass cut. Lewis would have also hung with the big dogs in the 70's. Don't make it seem like these guys couldn't hang with at least the gatekeepers back then.
              #1 lewis wouldnt have handeled those guys in the 70's


              and #2 doesnt matter who was winning on the score cards. vitali was getting beat up and got cut up and bleeding. vitali lost simple and plain. after that fight he was never the same

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              • Wlad Klitschko
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                #47
                Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
                ali fought the best and didnt price nobody out in any fight son. klitsckhos are running scared of david haye. a blown up cruiser.

                klitschkos suck man. all they got is size. nothing else. they both have lost to journeyment fighters.
                uhh Ali priced a ton of people out of the fight ify ou used todays standards. You had to fight in whatever 3rd world country Ali wanted, you had to fight on his terms and you fought for 1/5th of the money Ali did. You think Ali would give another fighter 50/50. Quick question to see if you know anything, how much did Frazier make for ali vs. Frazier 3. Also, Ali ducked guys from the beginning.

                This guy says the klitschkos are running scared of Haye and wants to be taken seriously? This sums up Ali fans right here. Completely ignorant and oblivious.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Wlad Klitschko
                  uhh Ali priced a ton of people out of the fight ify ou used todays standards. You had to fight in whatever 3rd world country Ali wanted, you had to fight on his terms and you fought for 1/5th of the money Ali did. You think Ali would give another fighter 50/50. Quick question to see if you know anything, how much did Frazier make for ali vs. Frazier 3. Also, Ali ducked guys from the beginning.

                  This guy says the klitschkos are running scared of Haye and wants to be taken seriously? This sums up Ali fans right here. Completely ignorant and oblivious.
                  you dont know **** about boxing and have never watched ali ever fight son. go turn on some klitshcko fights and bore yourself all day. they suck man. they couldnt handle the real deal muhammad ali man.

                  you must be like 15 talking **** about ali son. your a joke. i watched all of alis fights and know what hes all about. your a joke

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                    #49
                    Anybody boxing fan over the age of 23 knows about this.

                    Which explains why most of the NSB board doesn't.

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                    • omarinbox
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Wlad Klitschko
                      uhh Ali priced a ton of people out of the fight ify ou used todays standards. You had to fight in whatever 3rd world country Ali wanted, you had to fight on his terms and you fought for 1/5th of the money Ali did. You think Ali would give another fighter 50/50. Quick question to see if you know anything, how much did Frazier make for ali vs. Frazier 3. Also, Ali ducked guys from the beginning.

                      This guy says the klitschkos are running scared of Haye and wants to be taken seriously? This sums up Ali fans right here. Completely ignorant and oblivious.
                      Ali was a ducker......shyeah...I thought this was gonna be some sensible chat after a while but you're crazy fool.

                      you'll start whining about guys like bonavena when the heavy div is dead and your fighter thinks being a boxer involves stepping into politics.

                      if anyone's a sellout in terms of that its your boy

                      Wheres the fights that we want? They aren't happenning!!!!

                      Ali made them happen. HUGE fights the world still talks about.

                      Wlad and Vitaliy aren't doing that.

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