what you all might be forgetting about muhammad ali

[omarinbox]

Yup! I was always a fan of Joe Frazier approach to civil rights and always thought Ali was nothing more than a bigot who did more to harm the civil rights movement rather than help it.

I respect his stance on 'Nam and thats about it. What would he have done in 'Nam? Do a couple of exhibition fights and get a government paycheque.

He wouldn't have been out shooting and killing folks, but he would have recruited numbers to come back in bodybags. He made the right decision there.

[omarinbox]

If Futch hadn't stopped it, Ali would've got up and murdered Joe in the 15th.

Both of them are shot in their corners there you can see it in the footage.

Would have been good to see something. Futch regretted that for the rest of his life.

[Wlad Klitschko]

If Futch hadn't stopped it, Ali would've got up and murdered Joe in the 15th.

A Frazier that Ali himself and his people both noted was past prime and that he was chosen because he was past prime.

[Gorilla Dogs]

Did your dad also tell you about how the fight got postponed because Foreman got sick and wasnt adjusting to the african weather too well and perhaps that played some sort of role???

yea he told me about that. but he also said it was really dam hot and hurt both fighters. foreman was in his prime man. ali was on the down hill and still knocked him out.

[madsweeney]

Both of them are shot in their corners there you can see it in the footage.

Would have been good to see something. Futch regretted that for the rest of his life.

6:20 Ali collapsed on the ground. Not exactly in the condition to kill Frazier.

[pistol whip]

I respect his stance on 'Nam and thats about it. What would he have done in 'Nam? Do a couple of exhibition fights and get a government paycheque.

He wouldn't have been out shooting and killing folks, but he would have recruited numbers to come back in bodybags. He made the right decision there.

Oh I agree thats about the only positive thing that Ali did in my eyes.

[James78]

The only prime great fighter he beat is George Foreman.

do some homework you total moron

[Gorilla Dogs]

do some homework you total moron

^^^ this

[omarinbox]

A Frazier that Ali himself and his people both noted was past prime and that he was chosen because he was past prime.

And Ali was how old?

Man you need to learn you can't shake Ali from #1 HW with Wlad's record.

Theres no-one in the class of the fighters Ali faced in the 70s now so the case doesn't stand scrutiny.

We are talking Frazier, Foreman, Norton here...all ATGs he beat when he was on the downhill.

A beefed up cruiserweight is your best challenge and that doesn't stand up to the legacy of these guys and the depth of the division at the time.

[Gorilla Dogs]

klitschkos wouldnt have ever held any title in the 70's. theyre 2 hype jobs. just becuz theyre big