The Great Tyson Debate

[TheGreat1]

If you believe that then you must believe in the tooth fairy.

"He might be the best I've ever seen" - Holyfield on Tyson in 1987

why does everyone think that Mike, was so much better at 24 than 26, thats not old at all, he just fought better comp. Holy, was soo much better than mike. Mike could have never beaten holy, holy had too much heart and skill.

[JUYJUY]

why does everyone think that Mike, was so much better at 24 than 26, thats not old at all, he just fought better comp. Holy, was soo much better than mike. Mike could have never beaten holy, holy had too much heart and skill.

Dream on.

Tyson stopped training and turned into a freakshow after leaving the Catskills in 1988, he abandoned everything. He was at his best at 20 years old, the 20-year-old Tyson would embarass the 24-year-old Tyson.. it wouldn't even be close. Just like the 20-year-old Tyson would embarass any version of Holyfield, and again it wouldn't even be close.

[Tarver is my dad]

For the first time, I actually agree on what JuyJuy is saying. Tyson after 1988 was shot. A 1988 Tyson and a 1990 Tyson was totally different. People are saying how great Holyfield and Lewis is because they beat Tyson. But you also gotta realize that they both beat a shot Tyson, and it took Holyfield 11 rounds, and Lennox 8 rounds to beat a Tyson that was way out of his prime.

[SliqueJab]

I agree with Juyjuy this time. Tyson would have whoop any Holyfield version and knock him out cold. I mean I like Holyfield because he's a warrior but Iron Mike is freaking punching machine when he was 20.

After Cus D' Amato died, there was nobody there with Mike and his success made it difficult for Mike not to self-destruct and the the people surrounding him like Don King and his ex wife Robin Givens made it worse. This guy has the potential to be one of the top 3 greatest heavyweight of all time. Holyfield never had.

[oldgringo]

I don't think I'll ever post again now that juyjuy won't respect my opinions

Get real, Holyfield would have merc'd Tyson any day of the week. Tyson was mentally weak, Holyfield was maybe the toughest bastard ever. Tyson would have crumbled the minute that he discovered Holy wasn't going anywhere. Holy late TKO.

[Truth]

Youngest Ever Heavyweight Champion of the World
First Man to Ever Unify the Heavyweight titles
Won back World titles after being imprisoned

That alone puts him in the top five.

I agree...see the thing is Tyson is just..a legend...

[Parodius]

why does everyone think that Mike, was so much better at 24 than 26, thats not old at all, he just fought better comp. Holy, was soo much better than mike. Mike could have never beaten holy, holy had too much heart and skill.

A prime Tyson would've destroyed a prime Holyfield. Tyson really didn't train very well, he started partying & **** like that. The guy thought no one can beat him in the world, so his ****iness destroyed the man he was. Tyson in his prime was extremely fast for a big guy, his defense was incredible. I don't ever see Holyfield beating Tyson in his prime. The only guy I see beating a prime Tyson is Ali or maybe Foreman if he gets lucky. Even Foreman was to slow for a young Tyson. Many people are putting Bowe down, but lets don't forget he beat a prime Holyfield easily twice & the one fight Holyfield won against Bowe was extremely close.

[TheGreat1]

A prime Tyson would've destroyed a prime Holyfield. Tyson really didn't train very well, he started partying & **** like that. The guy thought no one can beat him in the world, so his ****iness destroyed the man he was. Tyson in his prime was extremely fast for a big guy, his defense was incredible. I don't ever see Holyfield beating Tyson in his prime. The only guy I see beating a prime Tyson is Ali or maybe Foreman if he gets lucky. Even Foreman was to slow for a young Tyson. Many people are putting Bowe down, but lets don't forget he beat a prime Holyfield easily twice & the one fight Holyfield won against Bowe was extremely close.

you really think that Bowe beat Holy easy???? I dobt that, i also beleive that Foreman took Holy out of his prime. weather u like it or not, Tyson was still in his prime when he fought Buster, but tyson just wasn't good enough to win, face it. I find it hard to beleive that a man is out of his prime around 24-26 years old. Fact is, Tyson was just over rated, somewhat like wlad before he fought someone who wasn't affaid of him, and got KO'd. Tysn lost 2 fights to the older holy simply because Holy was better.

[Parodius]

you really think that Bowe beat Holy easy???? I dobt that, i also beleive that Foreman took Holy out of his prime. weather u like it or not, Tyson was still in his prime when he fought Buster, but tyson just wasn't good enough to win, face it. I find it hard to beleive that a man is out of his prime around 24-26 years old. Fact is, Tyson was just over rated, somewhat like wlad before he fought someone who wasn't affaid of him, and got KO'd. Tysn lost 2 fights to the older holy simply because Holy was better.

Yes Bowe missed up Holyfield in first fight & the third fight, anyone can tell you this if they have seen the fight. Tyson is weird case, I do believe he lost interest & didn't train well after he came back from prison. Everyone knows that Tyson never trained much for the douglas fight. He didn't look like Tyson from round one. A prime Tyson would've KO Holyfield easily. Tyson screwed up, he could've become the greatest heavyweight of all time, if he stayed with Rooney & Cus didn't die. I can never see Holyfield Beating Tyson in his prime.

[JUYJUY]

you really think that Bowe beat Holy easy???? I dobt that, i also beleive that Foreman took Holy out of his prime. weather u like it or not, Tyson was still in his prime when he fought Buster, but tyson just wasn't good enough to win, face it. I find it hard to beleive that a man is out of his prime around 24-26 years old. Fact is, Tyson was just over rated, somewhat like wlad before he fought someone who wasn't affaid of him, and got KO'd. Tysn lost 2 fights to the older holy simply because Holy was better.

Well you better believe it because it's true, you can't change the truth dude as much as you want to Tyson was finished after the Spinks fight when he fired Rooney, he fell to pieces.