Olympic Testing & Olympic STYLE Testing (Difference)

[Ryannn]

Not having a history of cheating is irrelevant. The OST was a stipulation floyd wanted. Random OST in no way affects fighters performance. Manny lost to Morales not because of random OST, because he got outboxed. As a pathetic excuse he said he felt tired from givng blood. Manny and Morales retook the usual pre fight blood test because the original tests were lost.

i agree with the bolded part. morales was the better man that night. but a fighter always find excuses why he lost. all fighters do that, some just keep it to themselves.

if manny deluded himself that the blood test was the reason why he lost, then it only makes sense that he refuse it the second time around especially when it is only being required by his opponent, and no one else

Random OST prevents either fighter from using PED's the "right" way, ie cycling on and off. It doesn't matter what Manny agreed to he still insisted on a SPECIFIC dutoff date. By doing so he creates a window where PED's can administered in the proper cycle to maimise performance. Thats the point of the tests not to deter cheating but to catch cheating.

why would you cheat if you know you are going through a test that is far stricter than the current? nobody's that ******.

[Prime 407]

Olympic Testing= 24/7 365 Random blood and urine...

Olympic "Style" Testing= Random blood and urine from a certain time to a certain time.

I dont think people are paying attention to the word "Style". I look at it like, Olympic athletes are under contract all year, from year to year, Boxers from fight to fight. So boxers will be using a certain "Style" of drug testing while preparing for the fight. Random blood and urine, till the event date.

Am I the only person who noticed this?

Your basically saying it's "Floyd Mayweather STYLE" testing, he came up with the testing structure to suit HIM, it has nothing to do with the Olympic's or Olympian's, he just uses the Olympic tag to make it seem legitimate when it's nothing but BS.

[The Big Dunn]

why would you cheat if you know you are going through a test that is far stricter than the current? nobody's that ******.

Yes they are, thats why they get caught. The point is the testing in no way interrupts Manny's training, diet, sparring, running, film watching, or anything else that goes in to preparing for a fight. There is no valid professional reason for not taking them.

Now if the reasoning is **** floyd I don't have to do this just to fight him because I can make money elsewhere, fine. Say that and let the chips fall where they may.

[The Big Dunn]

Your basically saying it's "Floyd Mayweather STYLE" testing, he came up with the testing structure to suit HIM, it has nothing to do with the Olympic's or Olympian's, he just uses the Olympic tag to make it seem legitimate when it's nothing but BS.

Stop it. Olympic style refers to random blood and urine testing. Right now boxers are subject to a non random blodd test before the fight and urine tests before and after.

[Ryannn]

why would you cheat if you know you are going through a test that is far stricter than the current? nobody's that ******.

Yes they are, thats why they get caught. The point is the testing in no way interrupts Manny's training, diet, sparring, running, film watching, or anything else that goes in to preparing for a fight. There is no valid professional reason for not taking them.

Now if the reasoning is **** floyd I don't have to do this just to fight him because I can make money elsewhere, fine. Say that and let the chips fall where they may.

not when your'e in manny's position. he has much more to lose than the average boxer.

him losing is not as bad as if he was caught cheating.

[The Big Dunn]

not when your'e in manny's position. he has much more to lose than the average boxer.

him losing is not as bad as if he was caught cheating.

You have a point and it seems you suspect he has used some type of illegal PED. But thats the price when you want to fight the biggest draw. When floyd fought ODH he had to deal with certain stips, when Hagler fough Leonard, same thing. This testing thing isn't that big a deal!

[Prime 407]

Stop it. Olympic style refers to random blood and urine testing. Right now boxers are subject to a non random blodd test before the fight and urine tests before and after.

No **** sherlock, but why is Olympic style testing not random all year or up to 14 days, 5 days, 18 days before the fight? Who makes these rules, who says ok we can agree to these dates for the "random" testing to begin and end? WHO? Coz there's a beginning and end to the testing right, it's not full random???? WHO decides what's good enough for the fight to get signed??? I'll tell you, Floyd said 14 was good enough the first time, FLOYD says 14 is not good enough this time. It's Mayweather style testing, if you can't see through the BS then Floyd has successfully bamboozled you.

[Ryannn]

You have a point and it seems you suspect he has used some type of illegal PED. But thats the price when you want to fight the biggest draw. When floyd fought ODH he had to deal with certain stips, when Hagler fough Leonard, same thing. This testing thing isn't that big a deal!

im working under the assumption that he was in fact cheating. if he was, it would be ****** to take drugs when he is being subjected to far stricter testing.

i really don't think he is cheating. his improvement was technical more than physical.

if he was, he would have been cheating when he was still in the lighter weights

[The Big Dunn]

No **** sherlock, but why is Olympic style testing not random all year or up to 14 days, 5 days, 18 days before the fight? Who makes these rules, who says ok we can agree to these dates for the "random" testing to begin and end? WHO? Coz there's a beginning and end to the testing right, it's not full random???? WHO decides what's good enough for the fight to get signed??? I'll tell you, Floyd said 14 was good enough the first time, FLOYD says 14 is not good enough this time. It's Mayweather style testing, if you can't see through the BS then Floyd has successfully bamboozled you.

Coz there's a beginning and end to the testing right, it's not full random????
random testing is not compromised when there is a beginning and an end. Random refers to the time an day when testing is taken. So, within a 90 day time frame the random blood and urine tests means at any time during the 90 days the test can be taken.

WHO decides what's good enough for the fight to get signed? I'll tell you, Floyd said 14 was good enough the first time, FLOYD says 14 is not good enough this time. It's Mayweather style testing, if you can't see through the BS then Floyd has successfully bamboozled you.

Floyd I believe, offered the 14 day cutoff to testing as a compromise to get the fight signed. He didn't say 14 was good enough or not good enough. Your childish and illogical interpretation notwithstanding. Manny refused to the 14 day cutoff in January for wahatever reasons. Floyd then decided he would not offer a 14 day cutoff to get the fight signed.

Since Manny said no, opted to fight clottey, and did poorer than expected (even though 750k ppv's is phenomenal). Floyd fought a fight that had as a stip 0 day cutoff for OSt. he did well (1.25 mil ppv's). As such, he saw no reason to offer this compromise anymore since Manny turned it down

Does that answer you questions?

[Mayabang]

why would you cheat if you know you are going through a test that is far stricter than the current? nobody's that ******.

Yes they are, thats why they get caught. The point is the testing in no way interrupts Manny's training, diet, sparring, running, film watching, or anything else that goes in to preparing for a fight. There is no valid professional reason for not taking them.

Now if the reasoning is **** floyd I don't have to do this just to fight him because I can make money elsewhere, fine. Say that and let the chips fall where they may.

I guess with your logic that some people can be that ******, then I guess Manny is a very smart guy for not accepting fully Random test right? Manny is roided, so he's not ****** enough to go Random coz he doesn't wanna get caught. He'll just have to fight someone else like Marg and still make tons of money and still get praised by critics as one of the best fighters out there.
Whew! good thing Manny didn't take that random, otherwise he would've got caught and his boxing career ruined! That was close Manny, GJ!!!!

So what can you say about Floyd then??? Coz from what I've been reading lately, Floyd seemed to be getting the worse side of this whole fiasco.