Olympic Testing & Olympic STYLE Testing (Difference)

[cixthree]

of course, floyd is willing for a full test. he is the one who propose to that test. and i guess if he doent support his won proposal of test these *****s will still find a reason to justify him.

now, when you say the right thing to do. what should be done in cleaning the sport? the fool proof OST? i post not for pac's defense.

i post for the bigotry here.

imagine in the first negotiation, there was a cut off date and floyd counter offer a 14 days. pac refused to it and fans say pac is ducking, lying scared.

and how bout these fans never said anything about the cut off and its is fool proof. and when manny agreed, they said no! because floyd says no...its up to fight game.


so you talking about safety eh? manny can cheat in 14 days cut off prior to the 2nd negotiation but no one said anything until floyd rejected it.

bigotry, it is.

imagine in the first negotiation, there was a cut off date and floyd counter offer a 14 days. pac refused to it and fans say pac is ducking, lying scared.

I dont have to imagine it, Thats what happend. The only difference is Floyd is hated on. He opened alot of eyes tho, but people still were against him. They said Floyd is scared, and it was Manny that refused the cutoff
Floyd offered 14 days and Manny walked, signed to fight Clottey the next day for 1/3 of the money???????? But Floyd is scared/chicken/coward?.....

As far as 14 days no longer being on the table, Floyd said this in Febuary before the Mosley fight. "If my numbers are better, the old terms are off the table" Meaning, no cutoffs, no 50/50....
May 1, 2010.. Floyd/Mosley 1.4 mill.... Pac/Clottey 700k ppv (Floyd Doubled that).... Pac/Cotto 1.25 (Floyd outsold that one)... So who would you say has the upper hand?

[shadeyfizzle]

Its kinda hard to debate with a person with such a weak stance.
I support better test period 24/7 365.... during training camp, whatever.... But do you?
If you say you do, how can you support a man that turns better testing down, then bash the man whos asking for better testing?
It seems you dont support it when your guy doesnt want it, but you know its the rite thing to do. Either you support it completly or you dont.

I'm not against the idea Floyds used before, unlike Pac fans that will cut ur throat in Pacs defense (Pac has NEVER), really?
The point is, Floyd is willing to fully test, Manny is not.
Floyd has done the test for the Mosley fight and looked amazing, what will Manny look like if he goes thru testing? I'm curious to see, you should be to.

Conversely Mosley has also done the test and looked like ****. Is it legitimate proof of anything? Or had it simply taken a mental toll on him before they ever got in the ring?

[cixthree]

ok. but you just cant give us a single name?

Then i'd see that as a good thing rite?
That means the testing is pretty much working, if guys arent getting caught you can look at it both ways... Either they are not cheating or they are getting better at it (Pick one)..

Would you agree that more boxers get away with cheating with the current test in boxing than get caught?

[cixthree]

Conversely Mosley has also done the test and looked like ****. Is it legitimate proof of anything? Or had it simply taken a mental toll on him before they ever got in the ring?

Not really, Shane was with Team USA in 1992, so that means he's done testing before...

[shadeyfizzle]

Not really, Shane was with Team USA in 1992, so that means he's done testing before...

Ok....to play devil's advocate even further....Shane is the self admitted ped user. and one could say that everytime he was subject to olympic style testing....including the amateurs....he's lost. Is that enough circumstancial evidence to prove:

a)that the olympic random testing works as a deterrent???

and/or

b) that mosley had been using peds throughout his entire career and the only times he stopped was when he was subject to random testing???

[cixthree]

Ok....to play devil's advocate even further....Shane is the self admitted ped user. and one could say that everytime he was subject to olympic style testing....including the amateurs....he's lost. Is that enough circumstancial evidence to prove:

a)that the olympic random testing works as a deterrent???

and/or

b) that mosley had been using peds throughout his entire career and the only times he stopped was when he was subject to random testing???

Could have, would have & should have? All I have are the facts in front of me.

[cixthree]

Ok....to play devil's advocate even further....Shane is the self admitted ped user. and one could say that everytime he was subject to olympic style testing....including the amateurs....he's lost. Is that enough circumstancial evidence to prove:

a)that the olympic random testing works as a deterrent???

and/or

b) that mosley had been using peds throughout his entire career and the only times he stopped was when he was subject to random testing???

And using your logic, the last time Pacquiao lost was when his tests were lost and he had to re-do his test. Even tho it wasnt a drug test, just saying.

[Prime 407]

And using your logic, the last time Pacquiao lost was when his tests were lost and he had to re-do his test. Even tho it wasnt a drug test, just saying.

Dude he's done those same tests since then and destroyed opponents so your point is ******ed.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Dude he's done those same tests since then and destroyed opponents so your point is ******ed.

Hey mesher, you just proved cixthree's argument, if PAC has done those test before and did well, why would it bother him against PBF?

If you want to end this thread just ask who would turned down 40+million garaunteed for 12million, not a smart move by PAC's camp