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  • #31
    Originally posted by cixthree View Post
    Olympic Testing= 24/7 365 Random blood and urine...

    Olympic "Style" Testing= Random blood and urine from a certain time to a certain time.

    I dont think people are paying attention to the word "Style". I look at it like, Olympic athletes are under contract all year, from year to year, Boxers from fight to fight. So boxers will be using a certain "Style" of drug testing while preparing for the fight. Random blood and urine, till the event date.

    Am I the only person who noticed this?
    the question is which is better? do you support the safety of these megaboxers in a megabucks megafight?

    so why not 24/7/365 than 2 mos. coverage period?

    if we suspect floyd/pac as roid user, then they already benefitted from peds prior to this coverage as they already gained in conditioning themselves from taking stuff.

    see, floyd could be more suspect in using roids cause he was retired for less than 2 years, i guess, and looked he was always ripped and conditioned. probably from those retirement years he was taking roids as he conditioned himself to prevent ring rust.

    you dont support 24/7/365 and you think bout the safety of boxers? well, you are bigoted one.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ryannn View Post
      the whole point of the test was supposedly to deter cheaters.

      what floyd proposed won't assure that. ask conte.

      so basically, your'e asking for manny to take a test that is far stricter than the standard, he is uncomfortable it for whatever reason, and won't even assure him that he didn't cheat.

      remember, testing during out of competition is much more emphasized than testing without a cutoff.

      cramming 1 year's worth of testing in 2 month's isn't as effective
      Conte says if a cutoff date was needed, he'd advise 5 days... In a nutshell OST is not fool proof, but its better than boxings current test.

      OST is effective in stopping cheating during training camp, i'm sure youd agree to that atleast.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by cixthree View Post
        Conte says if a cutoff date was needed, he'd advise 5 days... In a nutshell OST is not fool proof, but its better than boxings current test.

        OST is effective in stopping cheating during training camp, i'm sure youd agree to that atleast.
        conte said 14 days is good enough for this fight.

        floyd even proposed it himself.

        again, this is testing that has not been established in the sport, and only being required by one opponent.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by led View Post
          the question is which is better? do you support the safety of these megaboxers in a megabucks megafight?

          so why not 24/7/365 than 2 mos. coverage period?

          if we suspect floyd/pac as roid user, then they already benefitted from peds prior to this coverage as they already gained in conditioning themselves from taking stuff.

          see, floyd could be more suspect in using roids cause he was retired for less than 2 years, i guess, and looked he was always ripped and conditioned. probably from those retirement years he was taking roids as he conditioned himself to prevent ring rust.

          you dont support 24/7/365 and you think bout the safety of boxers? well, you are bigoted one.
          Its kinda hard to debate with a person with such a weak stance.
          I support better test period 24/7 365.... during training camp, whatever.... But do you?
          If you say you do, how can you support a man that turns better testing down, then bash the man whos asking for better testing?
          It seems you dont support it when your guy doesnt want it, but you know its the rite thing to do. Either you support it completly or you dont.

          I'm not against the idea Floyds used before, unlike Pac fans that will cut ur throat in Pacs defense (Pac has NEVER), really?
          The point is, Floyd is willing to fully test, Manny is not.
          Floyd has done the test for the Mosley fight and looked amazing, what will Manny look like if he goes thru testing? I'm curious to see, you should be to.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by cixthree View Post
            Conte says if a cutoff date was needed, he'd advise 5 days... In a nutshell OST is not fool proof, but its better than boxings current test.

            OST is effective in stopping cheating during training camp, i'm sure youd agree to that atleast.
            OST is not foolproof. it is not fool proof.

            you talkin bout safety because boxing, yes, boxing is dangerous sport.

            and you support OST? oh no.

            try olympic style testing...this will save the sport as you guys claim boxing is tainted by cheating.

            let me ask you this. USADA does OST? can you give us name of boxers they caught?

            please. thank you.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ryannn View Post
              conte said 14 days is good enough for this fight.

              floyd even proposed it himself.

              again, this is testing that has not been established in the sport, and only being required by one opponent.
              14 days, 5 days depending on what interview... But the point is, this test pretty much assures (as much as can be that is) that each guy is not using during camp. And if you're going by what Conte says about the 14 days now, why were you against it at first? Dont say you were'nt.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by led View Post
                OST is not foolproof. it is not fool proof.

                you talkin bout safety because boxing, yes, boxing is dangerous sport.

                and you support OST? oh no.

                try olympic style testing...this will save the sport as you guys claim boxing is tainted by cheating.

                let me ask you this. USADA does OST? can you give us name of boxers they caught?

                please. thank you.
                You're getting off subject. Nothing is fool proof, I've already admitted that, only a fool would say otherwise.. This type of testing as you know is worlds better than what boxing has in place, you know this.
                It seems that you and the rest of the Pac fans that oppose it only do so because Pac isnt willing to do it.
                If Pac had approached Floyd with this idea it'd be the best thing since sliced bread. You'd scream it from the mountain tops, and line those who decline it against a wall...... I'd bet my 401k on that. All $123.50, I'm all in, lol

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by cixthree View Post
                  14 days, 5 days depending on what interview... But the point is, this test pretty much assures (as much as can be that is) that each guy is not using during camp. And if you're going by what Conte says about the 14 days now, why were you against it at first? Dont say you were'nt.
                  its unnecessary to test until the point of the fight. fighters let their body heal the last few weeks, and taking any PED's is pretty much worthless.

                  not to mention that URINE testing will be implemented the whole time, and tests right after the fight.

                  so you got blood tests in 6 weeks out of an 8 week training camp, urine tests all the way, and tests right after the fight.

                  there has been a thread about this. this testing is pretty much PED PROOF during camp.

                  out of competition on the other hand, there is no way to know. you gotta test them during that time, something what floyd testing also doesn't do.

                  if you can give me the name of a drug or combination of drugs that will have an effect with such testing, then sure, ill say better testing should be implemented ALL THROUGH OUT BOXING. not just one fight
                  Last edited by Ryannn; 08-21-2010, 03:42 AM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cixthree View Post
                    Its kinda hard to debate with a person with such a weak stance.
                    I support better test period 24/7 365.... during training camp, whatever.... But do you?
                    If you say you do, how can you support a man that turns better testing down, then bash the man whos asking for better testing?
                    It seems you dont support it when your guy doesnt want it, but you know its the rite thing to do. Either you support it completly or you dont.

                    I'm not against the idea Floyds used before, unlike Pac fans that will cut ur throat in Pacs defense (Pac has NEVER), really?
                    The point is, Floyd is willing to fully test, Manny is not.
                    Floyd has done the test for the Mosley fight and looked amazing, what will Manny look like if he goes thru testing? I'm curious to see, you should be to.
                    of course, floyd is willing for a full test. he is the one who propose to that test. and i guess if he doent support his won proposal of test these *****s will still find a reason to justify him.

                    now, when you say the right thing to do. what should be done in cleaning the sport? the fool proof OST? i post not for pac's defense.

                    i post for the bigotry here.

                    imagine in the first negotiation, there was a cut off date and floyd counter offer a 14 days. pac refused to it and fans say pac is ducking, lying scared.

                    and how bout these fans never said anything about the cut off and its is fool proof. and when manny agreed, they said no! because floyd says no...its up to fight game.


                    so you talking about safety eh? manny can cheat in 14 days cut off prior to the 2nd negotiation but no one said anything until floyd rejected it.

                    bigotry, it is.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by cixthree View Post
                      You're getting off subject. Nothing is fool proof, I've already admitted that, only a fool would say otherwise.. This type of testing as you know is worlds better than what boxing has in place, you know this.
                      It seems that you and the rest of the Pac fans that oppose it only do so because Pac isnt willing to do it.
                      If Pac had approached Floyd with this idea it'd be the best thing since sliced bread. You'd scream it from the mountain tops, and line those who decline it against a wall...... I'd bet my 401k on that. All $123.50, I'm all in, lol
                      ok. but you just cant give us a single name?

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