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  • megadeth
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    #101
    Originally posted by edgarg
    I suppose that it is futile, in this heated nonsense, to suggest that the testing for whatever substances are banned, should be left to the authorities who BANNED THEM.......??
    You can add pretty much anything u want to a contract i'm sure, as long as it doesn't go against the rules of the athletic commission. This is just an excuse and u know it. Let me ask you, shouldn't weight penalties be left up to the authorities that regulate that as well? U know? The same thing Pac did with his 10 mil per lb over? Are u calling Pac out on that?

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    • edgarg
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      #102
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Wasn't just that. he beat #2 JMM and #3 Mosley after retiring. before retiring he best #4 hatton and ODH. I understand your point but be reasonable and objective. When manny was beating those guys, floyd had castillo twice and an undefeated corrales on his resume.
      I think that Mosleys idleness for a year and a half at age 38 more than equals Mayweather's
      "retirement " of 21 months at age 30. Especially when one factors in Mosleys many gruelling fights in his later years, against Mayweather's much easier, low calibre opponent run.

      When one considers that Mayweather's toughest fight was against Emanuel Augustus, who, at that time had something like a 21-17 record, once can assume with little error, that his other fights were easier.

      I personally would think that Castillo 1 was his toughest, but only from a crowding, wearing-down aspect. For pure skills on both sides, the Augustus fight stands out.

      If Augustus had had Castillo's punch, it might have ended differently.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #103
        Originally posted by brick wall
        i'm just pointing out the ******ity in roger's statement and nothing else so what's your point? if you agree with him then you're just as ******
        Roger is "just being roger". I mean do you take him seriously when he rants like this? My point is no mattre how ridiculous each request is floyd accepted them and manny didn't.

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        • megadeth
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          #104
          Originally posted by -pound4pound-
          aint it all just so predictable?


          ALL THAT TIME they had laryngitis...then when PAC is about to finalize the Margarito fight, they all get their voices back


          except for Floyd...he's waiting for PAC's ringwalk to make sure make sure
          I guess he must've caught it from Pac. The same laryngitis Pa had when he couldn't say agree to terms b4 Mayweather/Mosley, but suddenly, after the terms were taken off the table and the fight was done, he found his voice and agreed to those same "unreasonable" terms.

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          • Ray*
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            #105
            Agreeing to OSDT then backing out for various reasons/excuses sure doesnt look good.

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              #106
              What is appalling is that many people doesn't understand that:

              • When an accuser points his/her finger, he/she must provide proofs/evidences that is subjected under preliminary hearings before an actual charge can be made.


              For example, if a White House intern screams "****! The President ****d me!", does this subject the President towards "testing" readily? NO.

              Otherwise just about any intern can cry ****!

              In Mayweather vs Pacquiao drug testing hoopla, the Mayweathers are accusing Pacquiao of PED, STEROIDS and then some.

              • What must a governing body do, such as the Nevada Athletic Sports Commission or even the authorities do?

              1. Gather formal accusations
              2. Gather proofs and evidence
              3. Deliberate whether there is a case or not

              And so are there any proofs that Pacquiao "roiding", drugging and then some that meets the grounds of FULL DRUG TESTING?

              1. Does his winning ways from the lower weight divisions to the heavier weight division count as a "proof" that he is "roiding", druggin and then some?

              NO.

              In my opinion, Pacquiao isn't subjected nor he is obligated towards testing because the accusing party cannot come up with proofs/evidence towards charges or even drug testing.

              This in itself is a "charge" against the Mayweather forcing the issue while lacking substantial materials to back up their claims. If anything, Pacquiao's counter "charges" against them has more beef.

              First of all, Pacquiao never had a documented reason or two of his "drugging". In fact, both Mayweather (Jr) and Pacquiao passed with flying colors in their history according to the Nevada Commission.

              What the Mayweathers have are pure speculation based on their fears and nothing more until they can come up with substantial proof/s inorder to bring FULL DRUG TESTING.

              That's the way it works in the court system and that's the way it should be in the sport of boxing when a party is accusing the other party.

              ****Mosley readily accepted drug testing because he have something to prove****

              In my honest and humble opinion, until the Mayweather camp can come up with a legitimate reason or proofs that Pacquiao needed to be tested, then they have no right to impose, or rather there are no substantial weight on their "demands".

              My 2 cents.

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              • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                #107
                Originally posted by megadeth
                I guess he must've caught it from Pac. The same laryngitis Pa had when he couldn't say agree to terms b4 Mayweather/Mosley, but suddenly, after the terms were taken off the table and the fight was done, he found his voice and agreed to those same "unreasonable" terms.

                Damn.....

                Checkmate.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  I think that Mosleys idleness for a year and a half at age 38 more than equals Mayweather's
                  "retirement " of 21 months at age 30. Especially when one factors in Mosleys many gruelling fights in his later years, against Mayweather's much easier, low calibre opponent run.

                  When one considers that Mayweather's toughest fight was against Emanuel Augustus, who, at that time had something like a 21-17 record, once can assume with little error, that his other fights were easier.

                  I personally would think that Castillo 1 was his toughest, but only from a crowding, wearing-down aspect. For pure skills on both sides, the Augustus fight stands out.

                  If Augustus had had Castillo's punch, it might have ended differently.
                  Floyd was 32 not 30. and he beats Mosley at any point in his career IMO. the margarito fight was not grueling in any way. floyd has earned everything he gets plain and simple. If this if that. The man earned the #1 p4p spot. That said manny makes a strong case as well.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by megadeth
                    I guess he must've caught it from Pac. The same laryngitis Pa had when he couldn't say agree to terms b4 Mayweather/Mosley, but suddenly, after the terms were taken off the table and the fight was done, he found his voice and agreed to those same "unreasonable" terms.
                    its the 7 month laryngitis that manny caught.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by megadeth
                      I guess he must've caught it from Pac. The same laryngitis Pa had when he couldn't say agree to terms b4 Mayweather/Mosley, but suddenly, after the terms were taken off the table and the fight was done, he found his voice and agreed to those same "unreasonable" terms.


                      how convenient for him to catch it when chances to make the fight happen again came up

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