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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #91
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Because those fighters were not as high as you say and floyds fighters were not as low. brussles, Corley, mitchell are all former world champs. You personally can't over rate or under value a fighters opponents just because you may or may not like them.
    im not over or underrating any fighter. just going by your own logic. Sosa, Bruseles, Corley, Mitchell....not 1 of them were in the top 10 p4p at the time of the fight. Mitchell im not sure about...but i recall correctly wasnt even in the top 5 at welterweight at the time.

    Morales, Barrera, Marquez were all 3,2, and 1 at the 130lb division....and each ranked #3 or #4 p4p by ring magazine at the time pacquiao beat them...behind only floyd, pacquiao, and in morales's case...each other. if all those dont merit a jump in rankings compared to the guy ahead of you....i fail to see how 1 fight against #1 welterweight mosley would merit a jump in rankings for floyd.

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    • edgarg
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      #92
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      Manny did the same thing brick and you know it. the only difference is floyd manned up and accepted the ridiculous $10 mil per lb penalty and manny wouldn't accept random OST. Stop making Manny out to be some kind of virtuous warrior.
      This isn't supposed to be the sort of "tit-for-tat" crap that kids play at, it is supposed to be serious business. There is NO WAY one can equate a taking of "objected-to" and "unrequired-by-the-Commission" blood tests with a publicity stunt such as a "$10 mill per lb penalty.....yes folks, a PURE publicity stunt, made only slightly legit by the fact that Mayweather came in at 2 lbs OVER the agreed weight for the badly outmatched Marquez.

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      • LilFloyd
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        #93
        FLOYD IS ON VACATION!!!! Leave him be!

        Just wait until pac officially signs to fight marg then he'll end his vacation as soon as he finds out pac already signed to fight marg

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          #94
          Easy fight but Pacquiao must take the tests 'cause he's simply unbelievable.

          I get it.

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            #95
            Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
            im not over or underrating any fighter. just going by your own logic. Sosa, Bruseles, Corley, Mitchell....not 1 of them were in the top 10 p4p at the time of the fight. Mitchell im not sure about...but i recall correctly wasnt even in the top 5 at welterweight at the time.

            Morales, Barrera, Marquez were all 3,2, and 1 at the 130lb division....and each ranked #3 or #4 p4p by ring magazine at the time pacquiao beat them...behind only floyd, pacquiao, and in morales's case...each other. if all those dont merit a jump in rankings compared to the guy ahead of you....i fail to see how 1 fight against #1 welterweight mosley would merit a jump in rankings for floyd.
            Wasn't just that. he beat #2 JMM and #3 Mosley after retiring. before retiring he best #4 hatton and ODH. I understand your point but be reasonable and objective. When manny was beating those guys, floyd had castillo twice and an undefeated corrales on his resume.

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            • edgarg
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              #96
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
              You should have read Conte's piece on how quick it is to get these PEDs out of your system.
              I read Conte's piece, as it happens, it was published here. I pay no attention to the claims of a felon who is trying to rehabilitate his reputation by showing himself zealous in dragging down well known athletes.

              WHERE IS THE PANEL OF ACKNOWLEDGED EXPERTS WHO SUPORT HIS STATEMENT???

              I'm asking because I'd like to know.

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              • megadeth
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                #97
                Originally posted by Webber676
                Its sad what drugs can actually make to humans brain, the Mayweathers are each one of them out of mind.

                That theory that Pacquiao got a lot of trouble with JMM and that FMJ beat him easy is bull***t, then we can say that FMJ got in a lot of trouble with DLH, Hatton and Pacquiao beat them and retire them both... so what? styles make fights but also a good discipline, hardwork and a heart of a champion make fights.

                A lot of trouble? What fights were u watching? Also, ask urself. Were they they better or worse fighters when FMJ fought them?

                Marquez is a agressive counter puncher with good speed, power & defense & very high ring IQ .

                FMJ is an even better counter puncher. Great speed, good power and best defense in the business. He can fight going forward and backwards, from the inside and the outside. He also has the best ring IQ in the business and once he figures u out(*usually within 2-4 rounds), he picks u apart. While not agressive he can be if he wants to be.

                Pac has great speed(hand and footspeed), very good power and great at fighting from angles. Pac however a sucker for counter punchers. He can only fight going forward, throws wide punches and has no defense. He has flourished lately by fighting fighters that work to his strengths.

                Now, if u look at how Maquez and Mayweather compare, u can EASILY see why Pac will have a very hard time beating FMJ.

                So yes, u are right, "styles make fights".

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                • shadeyfizzle
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  Wasn't just that. he beat #2 JMM and #3 Mosley after retiring. before retiring he best #4 hatton and ODH. I understand your point but be reasonable and objective. When manny was beating those guys, floyd had castillo twice and an undefeated corrales on his resume.
                  We're not arguing resume. we're arguing p4p standing. I dont have a problem with floyd being #1p4p but why dont you call it like it is and just say it was a combination of beating mosley and the fact he was #1 before and did nothing to lose it. Because hatton was not #4 p4p when floyd fought him he was 10th on ring magazine at the time of the fight and delahoya while ranked #1 at 154 was not p4p at all.

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                  • brick wall
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Manny did the same thing brick and you know it. the only difference is floyd manned up and accepted the ridiculous $10 mil per lb penalty and manny wouldn't accept random OST. Stop making Manny out to be some kind of virtuous warrior.
                    i'm just pointing out the ******ity in roger's statement and nothing else so what's your point? if you agree with him then you're just as ******

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      We're not arguing resume. we're arguing p4p standing. I dont have a problem with floyd being #1p4p but why dont you call it like it is and just say it was a combination of beating mosley and the fact he was #1 before and did nothing to lose it. Because hatton was not #4 p4p when floyd fought him he was 10th on ring magazine at the time of the fight and delahoya while ranked #1 at 154 was not p4p at all.
                      But it isn't just that. Floyd didn't "jump" manny, he beat better quality fighters than manny did after he returned from "retirement" and writers acknowledged it. if manny fought a better fighter than clottey he'd still be #1.

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