If Mosely was at his Prime fighting Floyd who would have won?

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  • TRAV1$
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    #81
    Mosley gives him serious trouble at 135, I know that much
    I'd edge towards Floyd by close decision though.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      That's what I was thinking. It just shows shane > Floyd =)
      Actually, it shows that you're probably blinded by your hate for the guy.

      You're asking what prime Mosley could have done against past prime Floyd. And you've still got Mosley coming up on the short end of the stick in the minds of most. That should be your first clue.

      Prime for prime, Floyd > Shane.

      Damn. Guy gets hit flush twice, and you fools can't help but piss yourselves and start overreacting.

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        #83
        Originally posted by johnm
        Actually, it shows that you're probably blinded by your hate for the guy.

        You're asking what prime Mosley could have done against past prime Floyd. And you've still got Mosley coming up on the short end of the stick in the minds of most. That should be your first clue.

        Prime for prime, Floyd > Shane.

        Damn. Guy gets hit flush twice, and you fools can't help but piss yourselves and start overreacting.
        not really, 45%-50% is huge to say the least. It just shows Floyd is just in the league of Mosely. And he calls himself the greatest? It just shows he need more convincing fights to pull away from the likes of Mosely.

        Tell your boy to stop ducking he might be the greatest if he will show his skills to formidable opponents.

        Sadly, he ain't he is on vacation again lol. For the record I admire Floyd's skill as a boxer. It's his ducking that leaves a distasteful after taste in my pallet.

        And for the record the poll is close =)
        Last edited by Spoon23; 08-14-2010, 08:54 AM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Spoon23
          During there fight Mosely was an old man in there, he needed a cane.. Too old, no stamina mouth already opened in the 4th round. He couldn't keep up, he had no stamina. He is just to old for an almost 39 year old fighter. It just shows people where fooled to believing he still has it.

          As Larry Merchant pointed out in an interview, fighters who are past there prime will still create the illusion that they are good when faced with a slow fighter (Margarito), But if faced with a fast younger fighter the reality takes over and it usually shows the real picture that past there prime fighters can't compete with someone faster.

          We all know Power is the last one that goes out from an old fighter, that's why he still caught floyd with a devastating right. It's just that he was too slow to compete with Floyd's youth.

          If it was a young primed mosely who fought Floyd. Floyd would have his 2nd loss already ( castillo his first loss ). Mosely would have finished him of for sure. He just wasn't able to finish him off coz lets face it speed vs speed, a younger fighter will most likely have more to offer.

          First of all you guys say Mosely ain't a prune coz he is still good for a almost 39 year old fighting May, but what more if Mosely was in his prime fighting Floyd.. Mosely wasn't competing at the highest level at age 38.

          If Mosely was at his prime and landed that big bombs that buckled Floyd twice. It is not hard to believe that Mosely could have followed up and ended the fight.

          I don't even think he would have to even follow threw with more punches. If a 38 year old mosely can buckle Floyd what more if that bomb that landed on Floyd was from a prime mosely. Lights out for sure.

          PBF got caught by an old 38 year old Mosely. A faster stronger Mosely would have landed it much heavier if it was at his prime. I know Floyd has the ability to adjust. But what will he have to adjust from if Mosely gets that hard right bomb in there. It's over man. Floyd will go to lala land. If Floyd is still standing. He will finish him of with a barrage of punches. Ain't rocket science. Floyd has nothing to adjust coz he will be sleeping real good.

          Sometimes boxing is brute force. 1 punch is all it takes to turn a tide.

          So I'm making this poll.

          Who wins prime vs prime.

          Note: Mistext on poll question: I meant if Mosely "was" at his prime fighting floyd who wins?
          I'm one of the biggest Shane Mosley fans on this board...I have to say I think it would have been closer then it was but I don't know if he would have won.TBH if they fought at LW I would say i think Shane would have taken PBF out.But both in their primes Floyd is very smart and fast...When he was a LW he was more of a offensive fighter which would not have served him well against a guy like Mosley but when Floyd Moved up too Jr WW and WW he became more safe so to say and smart would have been hard for anybody to beat him at that point...But overall I say May wins no matter when these two future HOF's fought but I think Shane has a better chance if he was in his prime..Mosley is out of his prime but I honestly stil see him beating alot of fighters(Top young fighters)Berto is young and fast and I see him KTFO by Mosley ya dig...

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            #85
            Originally posted by Spoon23
            Manny and Floyd didn't fight at Oscar's best. Manny beat Oscar good Floyd beat Oscar in a split decision. (oscar wasn't at his prime) But Pac showed his talent above and beyond by showing how old he is.
            So, if floyd were to fight Shane again in two years and beats Shane worse, or stops him, does that mean anything?

            i don't even like floyd, but what you are saying makes no sense.

            Oscar was getting beat up by his sparring partners before the pac fight. oscar was done. everybody knows that. even roach said it.

            be a boxing fan.

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              #86
              Originally posted by johnm
              Actually, it shows that you're probably blinded by your hate for the guy.

              You're asking what prime Mosley could have done against past prime Floyd. And you've still got Mosley coming up on the short end of the stick in the minds of most. That should be your first clue.

              Prime for prime, Floyd > Shane.

              Damn. Guy gets hit flush twice, and you fools can't help but piss yourselves and start overreacting.
              So you think if we were watching the same two guys fight back in 98 or 99 we have got the same fight??

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                #87
                Prime Mosley beats any current top WW not only floyd but also Paul Williams and Manny Pac who are fighting at other weights right now... People are forgetting how fast prime mosley was!

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                  #88
                  mosley by ko

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BoxerDood
                    Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Floyd is not the same fighter he used to be. He's got the body of an amazingly in shape 80 year old man. He's had back injuries, hand injuries, shoulder injuries, etc. He's also nowhere near as quick as he used to be, doesn't have as much power in his right hands and his legs have shown some aging. He's a lot more stationary than he used to be, even prior to the Mosley fight. I've also noticed that he's not able to see shots like he used to. The closest thing to a prime Floyd at 147 was the Baldomir fight to me. But even then he had bad hands.

                    In his 20s, Floyd certainly wouldn't have gotten caught with those right hands from Marquez and Mosley. He would have been able to see them and slip them. Just imagine if he was in the shape he's in right now back when he fought at 130.
                    I kinda agree with you....May is not in his prime anymore..But he was still prime when he fought Judah Baldy and even Hatton...Thing you have to understand is Floyd rest his body all the time which is why he does not fight like other fighters..He fights like once a year,While others fight two or three times..He is not in his prime but he is not that far past it either..

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Da Hammer
                      Prime Mosley beats any current top WW not only floyd but also Paul Williams and Manny Pac who are fighting at other weights right now... People are forgetting how fast prime mosley was!
                      I agree with Manny and Pwill but Floyd has alway been fast and skillful..With good Movement I believe Mosley would have brought the dog out of May but win the fight I would love to say yes but I just not so sure...Unless at 135lb then I say Mosley by KO.

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