If ARREOLA got RIPPED... He still Wouldnt have a Chance...

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  • nomadman
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    #31
    Originally posted by killacash


    There ya go.
    Cheers matey. It's clear Arreola was never a stylist, but he definitely seems lighter on his feet and a little quicker of hand (as he should be at a rake thin 178 lb).

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    • pistol whip
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      #32
      Originally posted by It's Ovah
      Sorry, Juan Diaz is fat for a boxer, Arreola is just fat period. And in answer to your question, no I most likely couldn't go ten rounds with an elite boxer, even one several weight divisions below me (to take into account the weight difference in the Arreola Adamek fight). But this is for several reasons: firstly, I'm not a heavyweight so would be facing a generally more skillful bunch of guys, secondly I don't have the chin or natural toughness of Chris meaning I'd have to get by on footwork, slips and upper body movment, all of which tire you out quicker. Finally, not being a professional boxer, I'd not be anywhere near as relaxed as Chris is when he's fighting, resulting in me burning up more energy whilst fighting. So yeah I probably wouldn't last. But then let's see the fat ****er play a full 90 minutes of football without collapsing in a big blubbery heap at the end of it. Then I'll be impressed.

      Juan Diaz Fat LOL!! Oh my ***ing god thats ridiculous! Juan is just not defined there is a diffrence. Seriously calling a guy who was known for having a tremendous work rate and great stamina fat is dillusional at best.


      And come on now have you seen the ***ing jumbos that play football in collage and the NFL? Guys that outweight chris by a 100 pounds do it easily *** chris could barely play on a High school offensive line at his size so yeah I think you are overexagerrating things and just falling for the myth that some how if you look like a model then you are a super athlete. Chris has great Cardio he has to it's a requirement and please stop acting like your typical misguided fan that thinks they are in better shape than a pro athlete. Seriously chris is in better shape cardio wise than 90% of the earths population.

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      • Boxing Scene
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        #33
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        That wasn't my question. Are you in as good "cardiovasculer" shape as Chris or do you just look better? I know guys at my boxing gym that look like male models but make them go more than 4 rounds and they are huffing and puffin like they just ran a marathon.

        He went 10 rounds with Adamek and didn't look anymore tired than any normal in shape boxer.
        I can and do run more than Chris Arreola does, it has nothing to do with muscles. At any given time I can run 10+ miles with no issues and have run 18 before for marathons.

        Yes, I am in better physical looking shape as well.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Chris definitely would need to get in better shape. He could do more than if he comes in overweight. There are things you just can't do when you are carrying extra weight in the wrong areas.

          Still, for Chris to beat some of the top guys, he needs to also improve on his technique. He relies on one thing way too much. Now, getting in better shape can actually help you improve on your technique, mobility and have better stamina.
          Well certainly if he didn't blow up so horrendously between fights he could devote a much greater time to tweaking his skills or preparing for his opponents better in the run up to the fight.

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            #35
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Juan Diaz Fat LOL!! Oh my ***ing god thats ridiculous! Juan is just not defined there is a diffrence. Seriously calling a guy who was known for having a tremendous work rate and great stamina fat is dillusional at best.
            I said he was fat for a boxer, which in the division he fights at is not a ludicrous thing to say. I also said nothing about his stamina or workrate. Diaz is a beast, and you won't hear any different from me.

            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Chris has great Cardio he has to it's a requirement and please stop acting like your typical misguided fan that thinks they are in better shape than a pro athlete. Seriously chris is in better shape cardio wise than 90% of the earths population.
            Maybe if Chris trained like a pro athlete he'd have a bit more success in the ring. My fingers aren't crossed that's going to happen though.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Boxing Scene
              I can and do run more than Chris Arreola does, it has nothing to do with muscles. At any given time I can run 10+ miles with no issues and have run 18 before for marathons.

              Yes, I am in better physical looking shape as well.


              Good! Still doesn't mean chris doesnt have good cardio, and even more it still doesn't mean you can do what Chris does.

              Unless you are a Pro boxer or Pro athlete I really don't see how anyone is justified in saying that Chris is a disgrace. He could weigh better and perform better but a disgrace? Thats just sucking on your own cack to make up for your own faults as an athlete. You may run really well but be honest with yourself. Chris is the superior athlete, he's the pro!


              Unless you are a Pro? If you are I retract my statement.

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                #37
                Originally posted by It's Ovah
                I said he was fat for a boxer, which in the division he fights at is not a ludicrous thing to say. I also said nothing about his stamina or workrate. Diaz is a beast, and you won't hear any different from me.



                Maybe if Chris trained like a pro athlete he'd have a bit more success in the ring. My fingers aren't crossed that's going to happen though.
                Chris trains like a pro just not enough, and Juan isn't fat for a boxer again he's just not toned. There is a diffrence, he's just not hard like a rock which does not make him fat for a boxer.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by It's Ovah


                  Maybe if Chris trained like a pro athlete he'd have a bit more success in the ring. My fingers aren't crossed that's going to happen though.
                  Yea that won't happen.

                  He's mentioned how he realized he has to train harder and come in lighter before... what? his last 2 fights now? And theres been no real difference.

                  And he's been saying it in the build up to his ESPN2 fight, and he just came in at a higher weight then he did for his last fight.

                  Arreola just doesnt want it as bad as other guys do.

                  When Adamek says he WANTS to be heavyweight champion, I believe him because when he gets into the ring I can see all the hard work he has put into his fights.

                  And when a Klitschko says he wants to hold onto his belts, I believe them too cause they are ludicrous condition and LOOK like heavyweight champions should

                  If Arreola ever won a heavyweight title it would be a disgrace to the title, and proof that you don't need to work particularly hard to get one.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by It's Ovah
                    Well certainly if he didn't blow up so horrendously between fights he could devote a much greater time to tweaking his skills or preparing for his opponents better in the run up to the fight.

                    True ..... I can't believe that someone who has this kind of an opportunity does not workout properly. Especially after losing. That in itself should have woken him up.

                    Anyone who has trained to try to get himself into the best possible condition knows what were talking about here. You just go to another level when you are in that kind of shape.

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                      #40
                      Arreola likes beating up C-level fighters, he will never be the first Mexican boxer to hold the heavyweight belt.

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