If ARREOLA got RIPPED... He still Wouldnt have a Chance...

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  • nomadman
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    #21
    Originally posted by killacash
    I believe it would benefit him. At the weight he is at now certain moves tend to tire him out so he is there always in front of your face. If he was more athletic then he would be able to slip punches constantly instead of walking in with no head movement. Also he would be able to get in and out of exchanges. Him being overweight restricts everything athletic related which is why he is a come forwared slugger. Now I wouldnt want him to become dehydrated zombie like where it effects his punch resistance. Just want his weight to come down enough for him to equip certain moves.
    This is a good point. Arreola at present relies far too much on his decent chin and not on his footwork and upper body movement, and that's going to cost him somewhere down the line, first in performances and then in health.

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    • killacash
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      #22
      Let me upload this video of Arreola when he weighed 178lbs in the amateurs and u do the math of what slowed down and what he stopped doing since the weight gain

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      • pistol whip
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        #23
        Originally posted by It's Ovah
        Arreola does have good stamina for a fat guy, but so long as a large proportion of his training camp is dedicated to weight loss that's time that could be spent honing his skills or formulating a better gameplan. He'll never be James Toney skills-wise, but if he could get himself down to a reasonable weight and stay there, he'd substantially improve his chances in the ring and improve his health as well.
        Oh I agree with you didn't say it would hurt chris to drop some weight but when people on this forum start jeering chris for being fat and well lets be honest 99% of the people on this forum are nowhere near as in shape as chris. And Chris is fat for a boxer but for a normal person on the street hes just a big strong looking fella.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #24
          It's about his dedication to the sport. It's a part of his limited skills as well.

          If he were more dedicated to keeping in the best possible shape, maybe that would lead to improving other aspects of how he fights. Maybe he develops a better gameplan than walking forward hoping to knock fighters out with big punches.

          When the guy won't put winning above wanting to eat, it's no wonder he isn't heavyweight champ and guys like the Klitschkos are.

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          • Kball15
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            #25
            Originally posted by sicko
            NO!

            Chris lacks BOXING SKILLS! he is a Knockout Artist NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS, if he doesn't score the KO then he will lose, Vitali and Tomasz boxed circles around him, Vitali just let him run into his jab all night

            Chris is fun to watch if you match him up with the right fighters but if you put him in with a fighter with boxing skills then he will lose
            you basically just said "NO!" and then agreed with me....

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            • nomadman
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              #26
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Oh I agree with you didn't say it would hurt chris to drop some weight but when people on this forum start jeering chris for being fat and well lets be honest 99% of the people on this forum are nowhere near as in shape as chris. And Chris is fat for a boxer but for a normal person on the street hes just a big strong looking fella.
              Sorry, Juan Diaz is fat for a boxer, Arreola is just fat period. And in answer to your question, no I most likely couldn't go ten rounds with an elite boxer, even one several weight divisions below me (to take into account the weight difference in the Arreola Adamek fight). But this is for several reasons: firstly, I'm not a heavyweight so would be facing a generally more skillful bunch of guys, secondly I don't have the chin or natural toughness of Chris meaning I'd have to get by on footwork, slips and upper body movment, all of which tire you out quicker. Finally, not being a professional boxer, I'd not be anywhere near as relaxed as Chris is when he's fighting, resulting in me burning up more energy whilst fighting. So yeah I probably wouldn't last. But then let's see the fat ****er play a full 90 minutes of football without collapsing in a big blubbery heap at the end of it. Then I'll be impressed.

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              • sicko
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                #27
                Originally posted by Kball15
                you basically just said "NO!" and then agreed with me....
                hahaha my fault, but yeah I agree with you!

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                • Boxin'
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mushahadeen
                  Are you dumb? Imagine if Miguel Cotto was 300 lbs. he would suck. Why would boxers even bother working out if it makes no difference!? OMG.
                  Because Cotto is in a weight divison, if he could gain 20lbs and still fight 154 guys ofcourse he would have an advantage.

                  Heavyweight is basically 200 and up so if you lose 20lbs you would still fight the same guys.

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                  • killacash
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                    #29


                    There ya go.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #30
                      Chris definitely would need to get in better shape. He could do more than if he comes in overweight. There are things you just can't do when you are carrying extra weight in the wrong areas.

                      Still, for Chris to beat some of the top guys, he needs to also improve on his technique. He relies on one thing way too much. Now, getting in better shape can actually help you improve on your technique, mobility and have better stamina.

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