Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez-Paul Williams in Play For November 20

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

the style Martinez needs to face are boxers.

Sturm
Collazo
Pirog
Dzinziruk


We seen him fight brawlers. I want to see him vs a guy with REAL boxing skills.

Well I can see ya point Burner, so lets look at the fighters mentioned.

Strum- Inactive, hasn't aced top notch comp since being robbed by ODH.

Collazo- Solid at 147, not so sure at 154; but a damn good test nonetheless. I think Sergio hits too hard for Luis.

Pirog- Everybody's riding the hype train right now(Jacobs had never been tested), nice style but unproven IMHO.

Dzinziruk- Intresting fight, he has been moved well, and is somewhat proven. But can get careless and is hittable. We saw with Paul and Kelly that Sergio can be accurate and awkward if your defense has holes in it.

[Ravens Fan]

Cool,

But, so far who has had an easy time with him?

Who would have an easy time with him?

What he brings to the table would give any fighter problems. Including the top 2 fighters in the world. Now P-Will might not win.... Very good chance that he losses. But, it won't be easy...

But, going by your logic. Every single fighter and I mean every single one even the top 2 fighters in the World are overrated. Because, every fighter has a few fans that would nuthug so much that they would overrated what that fighter could do. That goes for P-Will, Martinez, Floyd, Pac, etc etc.... You can honestly name every single fighter as overrated if you just only listen to his nuthugging fans.

I told you I had no logic. My opinion was based on what I had heard about Williams and what I witnessed when I watched him fight. And I don't believe what I had heard and what I had seen matched up. Let us look at another fighter, I will pick Pavlik. Pavik is not overrated because in my opinion he was never over hyped. He is what he is, which in my opinion is a limited fighter who did well with the skills that he has. And call me crazy but I don't think Williams is all that much the better fighter than Pavlik. I believe it would be a pick um fight if they ever fought. Again that is only my opinion. And as far as Williams vs Martinez I thought Sergio won easy and the only reason Williams was in the fight was because Sergio has the bad habit of taking rounds off as he did again with Pavlik. In closing I heard Williams was a beast of a fighter before I ever saw him fight, and than I watched him fight. And what I saw was a slap happy flat footed fighter winging lots and lots of arm punches. And that is not even my opinion it is fact and honestly I was far from impressed.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I told you I had no logic. My opinion was based on what I had heard about Williams and what I witnessed when I watched him fight. And I don't believe what I had heard and what I had seen matched up. Let us look at another fighter, I will pick Pavlik. Pavik is not overrated because in my opinion he was never over hyped. He is what he is, which in my opinion is a limited fighter who did well with the skills that he has. And call me crazy but I don't think Williams is all that much the better fighter than Pavlik. I believe it would be a pick um fight if they ever fought. Again that is only my opinion. And as far as Williams vs Martinez I thought Sergio won easy and the only reason Williams was in the fight was because Sergio has the bad habit of taking rounds off as he did again with Pavlik. In closing I heard Williams was a beast of a fighter before I ever saw him fight, and than I watched him fight. And what I saw was a slap happy flat footed fighter winging lots and lots of arm punches. And that is not even my opinion it is fact and honestly I was far from impressed.

What Williams fight have you watched all the way through.

[Mojita]

Serg will win much clearer this time , IMO.

[jrosales13]

I told you I had no logic. My opinion was based on what I had heard about Williams and what I witnessed when I watched him fight. And I don't believe what I had heard and what I had seen matched up. Let us look at another fighter, I will pick Pavlik. Pavik is not overrated because in my opinion he was never over hyped. He is what he is, which in my opinion is a limited fighter who did well with the skills that he has. And call me crazy but I don't think Williams is all that much the better fighter than Pavlik. I believe it would be a pick um fight if they ever fought. Again that is only my opinion. And as far as Williams vs Martinez I thought Sergio won easy and the only reason Williams was in the fight was because Sergio has the bad habit of taking rounds off as he did again with Pavlik. In closing I heard Williams was a beast of a fighter before I ever saw him fight, and than I watched him fight. And what I saw was a slap happy flat footed fighter winging lots and lots of arm punches. And that is not even my opinion it is fact and honestly I was far from impressed.

Lets pick Pavlik. He was the favorite to beat Hopkins. Not only beat Hopkins but some even thought he would stop Hopkins? Few people in the media didn't even give an ATG like Hopkins a chance.

Is that not overrated?

Sure he was hyped by some.

There was posters on here that thought Pavlik was going to beat Martinez. Some even picked that he would stop Martinez.

Like I said if you only listen to the nuthugging fans that every single fighter is overrated. You can't name a fighter who is not overrated.

And, lol @ Martinez having an easy time with P-Will... When was the last time you saw Williams-Martinez?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dirk. Burner is right HBO didn't want that fight, and neither did Clottey. Hell Bob had Clottey turn down another fight in Dec as well.

I know Clottey turned down the fight. Burner and IMDAZED claimed he was never offered it.

[IMDAZED]

I know Clottey turned down the fight. Burner and IMDAZED claimed he was never offered it.

You're right. I totally forgot about that - good memory, Dirk. Nevertheless - and to the point - Martinez knew in advance that Williams would look his way if Pavlik fell through.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You're right. I totally forgot about that - good memory, Dirk. Nevertheless - and to the point - Martinez knew in advance that Williams would look his way if Pavlik fell through.

Me = :wank:

[Ray*]

Great news, Now this fight would be more hyped than before.. Whoever end up winning this rematch would have put himself up there with the top 3 Pac and Mayweather included.

[SugarAnt05]

P-will should adjust and and take him out if he cuts off the ring. If he lets Sergio move around, he's gonna have a tough night again.