The Empty Seat Dilemma: Why So Many Top Fighters Can’t Sell Tickets

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  • Hallaqsillaq
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    #71
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    15-20 years ago boxing and horse racing were Top 5 sports in AMerica. But sooo many articles and TV shows exploiting the negative aspects of both sports have IMO hurt their popularity big time.
    Now they love their concussions and hairline fractures from Football.

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      #72
      Originally posted by project xxx1
      only in usa

      in the u.k even bum fights pull crowds

      real fans over here


      Yup i noticed that also,in America too man fighting fans are obsessed with the race of the fighter or how much hype a fighter gets.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
        Now they love their concussions and hairline fractures from Football.
        I thought the NFL was masterful in getting ahead this controversy. They seem to realize that if people think a sport is "unsafe" they tend not to wwatch it as much.

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          #74
          Originally posted by sicko
          I posted the exact same thing in another post, it was about Bradley fighting in California, Mosley wasn't able to become a draw in California even after beating Oscar twice

          unless Mosley was fighting a Latino fighters, nobody gave a damn about Mosley, nobody cared about the fights with Winky Wright or Vernon Forrest, even after the fight with Mayweather, they still have to turn around and match him up with another Latino fighter in Mora to draw interest

          Blacks don't really have to support especially in America, you have people that would rather go for a guy from another country then they would their own, but in other countries they ALL get behind their own

          Mayweather tried the nice HUMBLE guy bull**** but it didn't work, Mayweather had to turn into the "BAD GUY" of boxing to become the star and the draw that he is today, he tried the humble nice guy **** years ago but that wasn't getting him any big fights at all, when he went from "Pretty Boy" to "Money" Mayweather, that is when people started to care about him more, Mayweather took full advantage of that fight with Oscar to make himself a bigger star, while Mosley beat Oscar twice and nobody carried about him much after he beat Oscar, Mosley got the win but Oscar was STILL drawing more then Mosley

          Black fighters will have to work harder to become stars or they will have to do like Mayweather and become the Villains in boxing, Ward was a GOLD MEDAL winner for his country and he is still not well known, back in the day if you won a Gold Medal for your country that was INSTANT STARDOM (George Foreman, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar De La Hoya)


          but also look who a lot of these black fighters are signed to? Gary Shaw and Lou DiBella, both are decent Promoters but those guys basically depend on Golden Boy or Top Rank to give them big fights, they don't have the Power Top Rank, Golden Boy or even Don King has right now



          Lou Dibella has done a good job with Jermaine Taylor cause:A.careful match-making B.He Made Jermaine Taylor fight many times in his hometown C.Jermaine was a knockout artist (but i have to admit,he was mostly match-up with fighter`s from lower weight classes which him appear to be a harder puncher then he really is)


          Plus Jermaine Taylor had a exciting style.


          While Mallinnagi who was also promoted by Dibella could `nt draw as much as much as Taylor and Mallingnagi is a Italian from New York and New York has a big Italian population.


          The reason is because Jermaine Taylor had a more exciting style.


          So the type of fighter you have combined with careful matchmaking picking the right Area to fight in(Hometown especially) are the best chances of any fighter making it big regardless of race or creed but race does play a role in boxing.Black fighters are the least Marketable cause black people don`t support the sport as much as other races do.Alot of boxing fans are obsessed with race but alot of them mainly care about being entertained.

          So if a black fighter has an exciting style and is promoted right ,he has good chance at making it big.Not as much as a chance as other races that have an exciting style but still has a good chance at making it big.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Imhotep
            Yup i noticed that also,in America too man fighting fans are obsessed with the race of the fighter or how much hype a fighter gets.
            in england no matter colour or race you are,your getting alot of support and selling alot of tickets

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              #76
              Lou Dibella has done a good job with Jermaine Taylor cause:A.careful match-making B.He Made Jermaine Taylor fight many times in his hometown C.Jermaine was a knockout artist (but i have to admit,he was mostly match-up with fighter`s from lower weight classes which him appear to be a harder puncher then he really is) Plus Jermaine Taylor had a exciting style.

              While Mallinnagi who was also promoted by Dibella could `nt draw as much as much as Taylor and Mallingnagi is a Italian from New York and New York has a big Italian population.


              Paulie did real well in NYC. He was the 2nd biggest fighter in NYC behind Cotto and ahead of Zab.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                Lou Dibella has done a good job with Jermaine Taylor cause:A.careful match-making B.He Made Jermaine Taylor fight many times in his hometown C.Jermaine was a knockout artist (but i have to admit,he was mostly match-up with fighter`s from lower weight classes which him appear to be a harder puncher then he really is) Plus Jermaine Taylor had a exciting style.

                While Mallinnagi who was also promoted by Dibella could `nt draw as much as much as Taylor and Mallingnagi is a Italian from New York and New York has a big Italian population.


                Paulie did real well in NYC. He was the 2nd biggest fighter in NYC behind Cotto and ahead of Zab.


                I know he did well but not as well as Jermaine Taylor.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Imhotep
                  I know he did well but not as well as Jermaine Taylor.
                  Paulie was doing the Garden Theatre (5-6k seating capacity) and AC (10k) heavy. He was outdrawing Jermain until the BHop fights.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Paulie was doing the Garden Theatre (5-6k seating capacity) and AC (10k) heavy. He was outdrawing Jermain until the BHop fights.


                    I mean`t Globally.I should have been more clear.I was considering editing my previous post to make my self more clear.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Imhotep
                      I mean`t Globally.I should have been more clear.I was considering editing my previous post to make my self more clear.
                      Ok. Then yeah Paulie aint selling out any place past Conneticut for sure.

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