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    #81
    Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
    No one is hating or even saying he is ducking anyone. I just stated that after the Bute fight he should face Cloud (because Cloud has earned a shot).

    I say this because him not facing Cloud is being hypocritical. Dawson was crying all the time that when Calzaghe and Hopkins were pulling the same stuff with him, that he is now doing to Cloud.
    And he has earned it by fighting Glen Johnson?

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    • mrjoeblive
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      #82
      Originally posted by al capone
      Al bonanni needs to have cloud work on a body attack as well and not just headhunt all fight.I still think he needs a lot more experience before he gets in with bad Chad.even though they are the same age, Chad is light years ahead of cloud on overall intangibles and ring generalship is 2nd only to maybe money..
      hey al, i couldnt agree with you more. i was like come on man glen is 75 years old. go to the body and stop head hunting so much. had he did more body work he would have won in a more convincing manner. glen johnson is no joke, he hung in and made it a fight. but i was not so impressed with cloud. i think bad chad destroys him in 8 rounds.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Big Smoke
        And he has earned it by fighting Glen Johnson?
        big smoke, cloud took too many clean punches from glen. just imagine how many punches bad chad will put on him. long night for cloud if that fight happens.

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          #84
          Originally posted by mrjoeblive
          big smoke, cloud took too many clean punches from glen. just imagine how many punches bad chad will put on him. long night for cloud if that fight happens.
          Cloud isn't on Dawson's level just yet.

          I think Cloud needs to prove himself against atleast one more good opponent.

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            #85
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE
            Giving the haters a with that.

            I just watched Dawson frustrate and stop Ian Gardner and beat the **** out of Eric Harding. Chad won't have too many problems with Pascal's lateral movement and fast hands.

            Dude is a beast, he's going to walk Pascal down behind a tight defense and dominate another Ring top 5 contender.

            He's done nothing but try to fight against the highest ranked fighters. Calzaghe was getting called out before and after the Hopkins and Jones fights, didn't want none... Hopkins has been getting called out for the last 2-3 years, doesn't want none... Tarver and Johnson were the next best thing and they got it twice... Diaconu pulled out of a scheduled fight less than 2 weeks before... Pascal's getting it now... Cloud will get it after or next...

            People really get spoiled and **** because this kid has done nothing but try to fight the best and he still has plenty of haters.
            look lets be honest, if i were a fighter i would want none of bad chad. he has fast hands and feet. and he punches in bunches. calzaghe was smart to fight an old roy and fading b-hop. chad would have pounded him into the canvase and he knew it. he had to fight glen again because no one else wanted to fight him. and i dont blame them.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
              No one is hating or even saying he is ducking anyone. I just stated that after the Bute fight he should face Cloud (because Cloud has earned a shot).

              I say this because him not facing Cloud is being hypocritical. Dawson was crying all the time that when Calzaghe and Hopkins were pulling the same stuff with him, that he is now doing to Cloud.
              He was offered an opportunity to face Glen Johnson on the Dawson-Tarver II undercard on HBO for a career high payday, if he won he would have gotten the fight against Chad for another career high payday; all he had to do was not enforce his mandatory and let Dawson fulfill the rematch clause Tarver had put in the contract.

              So what did Cloud do?...

              He declined the offer, enforced his mandatory, got Dawson stripped, and fought Woods for the title. His career is now 2 years behind schedule because of him and his team's own ****** decision. Cloud turned down a shot at Dawson in the past, so he can wait until his number gets called now.
              Originally posted by mrjoeblive
              look lets be honest, if i were a fighter i would want none of bad chad. he has fast hands and feet. and he punches in bunches. calzaghe was smart to fight an old roy and fading b-hop. chad would have pounded him into the canvase and he knew it. he had to fight glen again because no one else wanted to fight him. and i dont blame them.
              Exactly... and he does behind excellent poise, technique, and defense.

              I'm not going at Calzaghe and Hopkins for not wanting to fight him, I'm talking about the critics that talk about Chad's 40 year old opposition as if he's not fighting the best out just because they're 40. As if those 40 year olds wouldn't have gotten in any top rated 20 or 30 year old's ass at Lt. heavyweight not named Chad Dawson.

              Still want to see Calzaghe-Dawson though.

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                #87
                Of course no one will dare engage in a debate with Queloque....since there is nothing to criticize Dawson for, people will only take advantage of people who don't know what they're talking about.

                But they won't dare engage in an argument about Dawson with someone who knows what they're talking about.

                Dawson has done nothing wrong. Cloud has no one to blame but himself for his career.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Mr. Copeland
                  Now if he wants Bute first...cool, but cut the **** and give Cloud a chance because he has more than earned it.
                  Ding, ding, ding. Take for example when Bernard Hopkins called out Bute without saying he'd make him move up to 175 like Dawson is now and Dawson's fans call Hops a ***** for it. But Dawson shrugs off Cloud's challenge while wanting Bute to come up to 175 and people have a party in the street.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                    Of course no one will dare engage in a debate with Queloque....since there is nothing to criticize Dawson for, people will only take advantage of people who don't know what they're talking about.

                    But they won't dare engage in an argument about Dawson with someone who knows what they're talking about.

                    Dawson has done nothing wrong. Cloud has no one to blame but himself for his career.
                    I don't get it. No one is criticizing Dawson just saying he deserves a fight.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                      Ding, ding, ding. Take for example when Bernard Hopkins called out Bute without saying he'd make him move up to 175 like Dawson is now and Dawson's fans call Hops a ***** for it. But Dawson shrugs off Cloud's challenge while wanting Bute to come up to 175 and people have a party in the street.
                      they also said a catch weight or at the very least 168 (most likely catchweight) i don't think a catchweight of 171 172 173 is bad. i cant see how bute adding 3 or 4 pounds will effect him. if any thing it's an advantage. no joke. also cloud at this point isn't gonna do ANYHING for dawson. if dawson woops cloud they will say he wasn't that good anyway. but if dawson woops bute dawson will BLOW UP. he will finally have the recognition that he always have dreamed of. most likely this is all talk though because bute will just dis miss the fight knowing that dawson would easily **** him and end the hype.
                      Last edited by americanbot; 08-10-2010, 08:36 PM.

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