Comments Thread For: Dawson's Promoter Not Impressed By Cloud: Bute is Next

[Steak]

Bute vs Dawson is an excellent fight I would throughly enjoy seeing. I like the sound of Dawson-Cloud too, but...a Bute fight sounds better. Cloud 'earned' his shot and everything, but nothing is stopping him from fighting the other credible opponents at LHW.

Cloud vs Chris Henry, for example, would be an explosive matchup.

[-Kev-]

Now if he wants Bute first...cool, but cut the **** and give Cloud a chance because he has more than earned it.

Cloud hasn't earned **** yet. He should fight Pascal after Dawson is done with him. Cloud has Woods and Johnson.

Dawson has Harding, Adamek, Johnson twice, Tarver twice, and soon Pascal. Dawson deserves a big pay day against Bute in Montreal. How is he just going to take a step back without even taking advantage of what he has earned?

[Devils Advocate]

Bute is bigger than Dawson on fight night and Bute is taller than Dawson, he's 6 2 and Dawson is 6 1, not that height matters but still. Bute, although fights 7lbs less, is actually the bigger man on fight night he weighs more than Dawson weighs for his LHW fights.

And you say he picks on older and smaller guys, where do you rate Pascal? Who beat the undefeated Diaconu twice at LHW(a guy who was seen as a threat to Dawson just like Cloud is now).

Believe it or not, Bute is actually the biggest SMW. He's biiger than Froch and Dirrell who are the biggest one's in the Super 6.


If people think Abraham at 5' 10" is too short to be a SMW, then what do they have to say about the 5' 10" Tavoris Cloud at LHW? It's ridiculous, the stuff people say without thinking.

No way Dawson weighed 192lbs on fight night and he being Dawson has said on more than 1 occasion that he is 6'3'' Regardless I read an interview with Bute and I pulled this out of it, b/c he clearly wants to stay at supermiddleweight.

by Anson Wainwright on 21 July 2010

Anson Wainwright - Much has been said on the Super 6. Your obviously a glaring omission from the tournament. What can you tell us from your point of view why you weren’t involved was?

Lucian Bute - It’s out of my control. To be not involved in the Super six give me the chance to be with HBO. They came for my last 2 fights and I’m very happy with that. I will fight the winner of the tournament to reign on my division!

Anson Wainwright - The second round of fights has just taken place, what are your thoughts on how it has gone so far? How do you see the tournament panning out?

Lucian Bute - Every fight was interesting since the beginning. I think Andre Ward will defeat Dirrell and win the tournament.

[Khalid X]

Cloud hasn't earned **** yet. He should fight Pascal after Dawson is done with him. Cloud has Woods and Johnson.

Dawson has Harding, Adamek, Johnson twice, Tarver twice, and soon Pascal. Dawson deserves a big pay day against Bute in Montreal. How is he just going to take a step back without even taking advantage of what he has earned?

Did you miss my reply in which I said it's cool if he faces Bute first, as long as he faces Cloud afterwards?

Cloud has earned a shot as he is undefeated, has just beaten two great fighters at LHW, and is a champion himself.

[Devils Advocate]

Bute vs Dawson is an excellent fight I would throughly enjoy seeing. I like the sound of Dawson-Cloud too, but...a Bute fight sounds better. Cloud 'earned' his shot and everything, but nothing is stopping him from fighting the other credible opponents at LHW.

Cloud vs Chris Henry, for example, would be an explosive matchup.

If Andre Ward wins the Super six then a much better match up will be Bute/Ward for the ring magazine title, supermiddle weight supremacy I'm sure Bute would be willing to wait for that fight instead of making Dawson kill himself to squeeze into 168. Shaw don't want anything to do with 168 b/c at that weight Bute may KO Dawson.

[-Kev-]

No way Dawson weighed 192lbs on fight night and he being Dawson has said on more than 1 occasion that he is 6'3'' Regardless I read an interview with Bute and I pulled this out of it, b/c he clearly wants to stay at supermiddleweight.

by Anson Wainwright on 21 July 2010

Anson Wainwright - Much has been said on the Super 6. Your obviously a glaring omission from the tournament. What can you tell us from your point of view why you weren’t involved was?

Lucian Bute - It’s out of my control. To be not involved in the Super six give me the chance to be with HBO. They came for my last 2 fights and I’m very happy with that. I will fight the winner of the tournament to reign on my division!

Anson Wainwright - The second round of fights has just taken place, what are your thoughts on how it has gone so far? How do you see the tournament panning out?

Lucian Bute - Every fight was interesting since the beginning. I think Andre Ward will defeat Dirrell and win the tournament.

If Dawson is 6 3 then Bute is 6 4.

[-Kev-]

Did you miss my reply in which I said it's cool if he faces Bute first, as long as he faces Cloud afterwards?

Cloud has earned a shot as he is undefeated, has just beaten two great fighters at LHW, and is a champion himself.

He doesn't have to face Cloud afterward if he doesn't want to. Dawson is a proven champion. He went 12 rounds with Adamek, 24 with Johnson, 24 with Tarver, 12 rounds with harding and now probably another 12 tough rounds with Pascal. They guy deserves his big pay day because he has put in work. Cloud has 10 fights less than Dawson and just squeeked by a guy who Dawson beat twice, and the first time was 2 years ago. Dawson vs Bute, then Froch/Kessler. If he beats Cloud, haters will say Cloud is too short at 5' 10" to be a LHW or that "he only had 20 fights and was too green". So far every Dawson win has an excuse behind it by the haters. I can not see how a win over Cloud will be any different. If you're gonna get every win ****ted on, might as well get payed a lot of money for it.

[Steak]

If Andre Ward wins the Super six then a much better match up will be Bute/Ward for the ring magazine title, supermiddle weight supremacy I'm sure Bute would be willing to wait for that fight instead of making Dawson kill himself to squeeze into 168. Shaw don't want anything to do with 168 b/c at that weight Bute may KO Dawson.

people keep acting like the Super Six is going to be over soon. Doesnt it have another year or more to go? After the third round ends, doesnt the competition start again as an elimination tourney with the 4 highest guys? thats 2 more fights left, and the third round hasnt even ended yet.

In the meantime, what exactly is Bute supposed to do? I say he should fight Dawson, Id love that.

Cloud may 'deserve' a fight with Dawson, but cmon, its not the top priority on my list...Cloud can try to fight Shumenov(I think Shumenov said he wanted to fight Cloud and Dawson), Chris Henry, Brahmer, pretend that an Erdie fight is possible, etc...

[Spray_resistant]

IDK about Cloud really "earning" his shot as he is more or less getting it by default but I hope it happens just to shut ppl up and it is somewhat interesting even after how green Cloud looked Saturday.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

Bute is bigger than Dawson on fight night and Bute is taller than Dawson, he's 6 2 and Dawson is 6 1, not that height matters but still. Bute, although fights 7lbs less, is actually the bigger man on fight night he weighs more than Dawson weighs for his LHW fights.

And you say he picks on older and smaller guys, where do you rate Pascal? Who beat the undefeated Diaconu twice at LHW(a guy who was seen as a threat to Dawson just like Cloud is now).

Believe it or not, Bute is actually the biggest SMW. He's biiger than Froch and Dirrell who are the biggest one's in the Super 6.


If people think Abraham at 5' 10" is too short to be a SMW, then what do they have to say about the 5' 10" Tavoris Cloud at LHW? It's ridiculous, the stuff people say without thinking.

You obviously did'nt read my whole post because I addressed all that.