Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao's Baiting of Mayweather is Uncharacteristic

[Lorily]

Hahahaha LMAO!

Now you agree with Ronnie?

WTF you really are one of a kind racist ****! I thought Ronnie's not credible at all to you indio?

Keep contradicting yourself!

That's Vitos favorite thing to do, contradict. He posted a quote to try to make his point, but what he really did was change (reword) a QUOTE.
The original QUOTE -
"...he merely verbalizes or scribbles an outline and a ghost writer does the rest."
VITO re-writing a QUOTE -
"while Manny can merely verbalize or scribble an outline, a ghost-writer has to do the rest..."
Bolded are the changes Vito made to the QUOTE. Leave it to Vito to change the wording in a quote to try to manipulate others for his own objective. He's banking on readers not noticing the difference.

[Lorily]

Soooo, even Ronnie Nat is admitting here that Pacquiao is functionally illiterate:

"while Manny can merely verbalize or scribble an outline, a ghost-writer has to do the rest...."




Manny is getting owned by his own people.

Pac sells 1.25 million buys and makes $12 million.

Floyd sells 1.4 million buys and makes $40 million.


...The illiterate congressman really should hire someone to read his contracts for him.

Just tell that illiterate congressman to accept random testing. Or get his daddy to convince him

...if pac can even FIND his daddy.

Just out of curiousity Vito - how well do you speak/write in Tagalog?? How many languages other than your native language do you speak?

[Alibata]

That's Vitos favorite thing to do, contradict. He posted a quote to try to make his point, but what he really did was change (reword) a QUOTE.
The original QUOTE -
"...he merely verbalizes or scribbles an outline and a ghost writer does the rest."
VITO re-writing a QUOTE -
"while Manny can merely verbalize or scribble an outline, a ghost-writer has to do the rest..."
Bolded are the changes Vito made to the QUOTE. Leave it to Vito to change the wording in a quote to try to manipulate others for his own objective. He's banking on readers not noticing the difference.

He reminds me of another poster here who has been banned several times likes putting everyone on ignore too.

[Lorily]

He reminds me of another poster here who has been banned several times likes putting everyone on ignore too.

Yea, he was And Still before he got banned on that one. I'm not sure who he was before that one but he's not too hard to figure out.

[komandante]

Pacquiao v Mayweather is every boxing fans want, but Floyd doesn't want that
fight. Let's move on.

[LeadUppercut]

You really think I know all the answers to all your questions?

Thank you!!!!

ahahh maybe not, but you made a couple of good points, which made me wonder why Nathanielz would do such a thing in the first place.

[LeadUppercut]

EVERYBODY - READ THIS, YOU SUCKERS !!

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Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He's a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou.

Team Mayweather wasn't even the first to make these claims. It's been coming out of his own camp.

Michael Marley, the day after Arum's infamous "teleconference," came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke.

Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging.

He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.

Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.

Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.

That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.

Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.

When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.

Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money.

Pretty predictable.

As another example of the way Arum operates, it also turns out that "Pacquiao accepting 14 days" was just more "smoke" as part of the Arum charade.

The original quote from Pacquiao was 100 percent fake. Arum has admitted as much. The second quote from Pacquiao was real, but for PR purposes. Pacquiao's manager denied it was accurate, when quizzed soon after.

To confirm the charade, only days ago, Arum was asked straight up, what drug terms Pacquiao had agreed to and he was unable to give an answer.

This is a man who had an agreement with Mayweather's people? He couldn't even answer what the supposed drug agreement was?

So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out.

Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn't make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first.

Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he'd have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight.

Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight.

That's basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further.

Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was "waiting for Floyd to accept his offer." Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum's claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted.

Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts.

In a strange way, neither side is technically lying. Most likely, after taking legal advice, they've worded it all very carefully.

Arum claimed that he was waiting for Mayweather to agree to his offer, and had been dealing with Greenberg. The problem being, his dealings with Greenberg amounted to one conversation in which he sent him an awful offer, knowing full well it wouldn't work. No negotiations, talks, or discussions whatsoever.

Arum's offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about "terms being agreed by both sides."

Mayweather's people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press.

Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn't justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else.

Golden Boy? Well Marley claims that there quite literally was a gag order. It's just the fact that the negotiations ended after about two days. You can tell when the fight fell through. Arum started talking to the media twice a day!

Marley claims that Golden Boy's position with Arum is to just let him talk, and not justify his claims with replies, safe in the knowledge that most of the sport world knows he talks out of his behind.

Arum could well find himself in a tough position, however. Dan Raphael reported that Ellerbe is not only one of the most honest guys in boxing, he's also been speaking to Greenberg regularly for weeks. These daily conversations have reportedly gone on after his claim that basically either Greenberg or Arum is a stone cold liar.

Which suggests to most that Greenberg agrees with his pronouncement.

Again, Marley is a Top Rank guy, and a noted Pacquiao backer. He reported that Arum's claims of "negotiations" and "agreements" were phony, days before any Mayweather person made any comment.

Mayweather's guy's wording is probably a bit controversial, and not 100 percent true, but both Marley and Ellebre are basically singing from the same hymn sheet.

Arum completely and utterly exaggerated all claims of "agreements," "deals," "contracts," and "negotiations."

YOU BUNCH OF SUCKERS !!

I said this days ago.....

He stated that he negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. Then he placed a two week " deadline " on the offer, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

After Bob Arum's conference call, Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that neither him nor or Ross Greenburg had ever actually spoken with anyone from GBP.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

SUCKERS, YOU ALL BEEN PLAYED !!

[yingyang]

ive been watching the philippines media regarding pacman and newspaper.

pacman never ever mention that he agreed to full no cutoff randmom ost
in the media or in the tabloids.

point 1.
arum never mentioned oh his midnight prescon that manny agreed to
full random till fight night.

point 2.
manny never say to philippines media or tabloid that he agreed to full random
till fight night OST.

FLOYD: take random ost till fight nignt then we have a fight.
PAC: fight me like a warrior or a man
FLOYD: did you agree to my demand? ost full random till fight night...
PAC: fight me like a man and stop being a coward.
FLOYD: just lemme know when u agree to my demand, till then, ill take my vacation
PAC: damn... there goes my 40 mil.


now to all filipino pacfans... show proof the manny agreed to ost no cutoff... in pacman statement he said he agreed to SOME of mayweathers demand. the word is "SOME"