Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao's Baiting of Mayweather is Uncharacteristic
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Very uncharacteristic indeed, pac doesn't need to go this low, he can forget about mayweather and fight other welterweight champ like berto or go down to 140 and fight bradley or alexander. Just don't fight margo cause it sucks.Comment
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Why would Nathanielz write an article pointing out that.....
a.) Manny's comments were uncharacteristic
b.) Manny's comments, are actually not Manny's comments at all
c.) the ghost-writer took " liberties " basically rendering the comments invalidComment
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You really think I know all the answers to all your questions?
Thank you!!!!
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bush was re-elected more than twice?
oh, i didn't know that.
but don't get me wrong, i don't agree with american politics either. in fact, i'd probably know more about that than you do. it's just that the post i was replying to was about Pac's election to congress.Comment
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Hahahaha LMAO!
Now you agree with Ronnie?
WTF you really are one of a kind racist ****! I thought Ronnie's not credible at all to you indio?
Keep contradicting yourself!
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yeh i know yeh..? Maywether should step up and say "let's fight".. see what kind of excuse Arum comes up..Comment
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such eloquence! this should win the pulitzer. is that all you can do? watch and learn
i christen your floyd mayweather, the fa*got floyd the simian mongoloid
why?
1. he's apparently male but not a man of his words, he must be a fa*got!
2. he looks like a monkey, talks like monkey and walks like a monkey! by jove! he's must be simian!
3. he's a got a big head and small brains, ergo he's a mongoloid.
thus, we have the fa*got floyd the simian mongoloid.
qed
now, since you've been sucking your idol's d*ck since who knows when, Artiau henceforth your shall be known as mongoloid monkey 1Comment
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ost? what for? you very well know that fa*got floyd the simian mongoloid demanded this ost to duck the fight. yahoo, espn, cbs call him a coward! and now, pac calls him one as well.You always know the tree by the fruit it bares and if Manny really wanted Floyd he would not be fighting Margacheato so cut the BS. Top Prank is behind this BS. They know Floyd will not be dictated to. This is for *******s. If Manny really wanted Floyd he would submit to OST and Floyd's larger chunk of the pie it's really simple instead of these BS puppet mind games Top Prank is playing. What ever happened to beating the next best available opponent to get to the top guy? Marquez called out Floyd to get to Manny. Floyd beat Marquez and Mosley to reclaim his top spot and what is Manny doing? Instead of Williams, Berto, Mosley, Bradley or Martinez he's fighting a guy that should be banned for life and coming off a vicious beat down. Why? Because Manny is a fake ass, roided up clown.
when will that fa*got floyd the simian mongoloid grow some cojones (i'll be happy with one) and fight.
again. THAT FA*GOT FLOYD THE SIMIAN MONGOLOID IS A COWARD!Comment
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Bob Arum Called Out for Lying by Top Rank Insider
By CJ James (Contributor) on July 21, 2010
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Defending Bob Arum is quite hard for a number of reasons. He's a famous liar, well-known to veteran fans as a promoter that tends to totally exaggerate negotiations to ensure that he comes out looking holier than thou.
Team Mayweather wasn't even the first to make these claims. It's been coming out of his own camp.
Michael Marley, the day after Arum's infamous "teleconference," came right out and said it. This was days before Leonard Ellerbe spoke.
Marley, a Top Rank/Pacquiao writer, and a close friend of Arum's, was just as perplexed by Arum's deadline. He didn't get it; he couldn't work out what Arum was up to. So he went digging.
He spoke to his Top Rank people, and was shocked with the answer. Again, this was days before Ellerbe spoke.
Negotiation just hadn't been happening. They'd started, briefly, but capitulated almost instantly, according to Marley.
Marley claimed that Arum had only spoken to Greenburg once, months ago. And that conversation was little more than Arum telling him his demands. Demands that Golden Boy just weren't interested in.
That's basically it. No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.
Bob Arum, according to Marley, just spent the next five weeks "blowing smoke to the media," to try and confuse the situation and giving the impression that he was breaking his back to make the deal.
When in truth, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was the last thing Arum wanted for 2010.
Why did the talks fail? According to Marley, contrary to most reports, Pacquiao was unwilling to move an inch on drug testing. And Mayweather was unwilling to move an inch on money.
Pretty predictable.
As another example of the way Arum operates, it also turns out that "Pacquiao accepting 14 days" was just more "smoke" as part of the Arum charade.
The original quote from Pacquiao was 100 percent fake. Arum has admitted as much. The second quote from Pacquiao was real, but for PR purposes. Pacquiao's manager denied it was accurate, when quizzed soon after.
To confirm the charade, only days ago, Arum was asked straight up, what drug terms Pacquiao had agreed to and he was unable to give an answer.
This is a man who had an agreement with Mayweather's people? He couldn't even answer what the supposed drug agreement was?
So what actually happened? According to Marley, Arum made these claims days before anyone from team Mayweather spoke out.
Well, Arum has allegedly been fixing a Pacquiao vs. Margarito bout in the Middle East for months. But he knew full well that he couldn't make the fight without being seen to be trying to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao first.
Plus, HBO, after pressure from Golden Boy, flat out told him that he'd have to approach Mayweather first, or they would not work on a Margarito fight.
Arum, according to Marley, approached Greenburg with his terms for the fight. Terms, Marley suspects, that were never going to be accepted. Terms, that in regards to drug testing, were even worse than the last fight.
That's basically it. Golden Boy felt Arum was not being serious, and had no intention of negotiating further.
Arum played the media, and proclaimed that he was "waiting for Floyd to accept his offer." Which, I guess, was technically true. The big lie came with Arum's claims that these terms had been negotiated and accepted.
Marley claims that this is just 100 percent false. There were no real talks. No deals. No agreements. No contracts.
In a strange way, neither side is technically lying. Most likely, after taking legal advice, they've worded it all very carefully.
Arum claimed that he was waiting for Mayweather to agree to his offer, and had been dealing with Greenberg. The problem being, his dealings with Greenberg amounted to one conversation in which he sent him an awful offer, knowing full well it wouldn't work. No negotiations, talks, or discussions whatsoever.
Arum's offer. Countdown clock. Lots of BS about "terms being agreed by both sides."
Mayweather's people are technically speaking the truth as well. There were never any negotiations, talks, agreements, deals. Just Arum blowing smoke to the press.
Why did Arum exaggerate his efforts so much? Because he wanted to set up Margarito vs. Pacquiao and couldn't justify it without trying to pin the blame on someone else.
Golden Boy? Well Marley claims that there quite literally was a gag order. It's just the fact that the negotiations ended after about two days. You can tell when the fight fell through. Arum started talking to the media twice a day!
Marley claims that Golden Boy's position with Arum is to just let him talk, and not justify his claims with replies, safe in the knowledge that most of the sport world knows he talks out of his behind.
Arum could well find himself in a tough position, however. Dan Raphael reported that Ellerbe is not only one of the most honest guys in boxing, he's also been speaking to Greenberg regularly for weeks. These daily conversations have reportedly gone on after his claim that basically either Greenberg or Arum is a stone cold liar.
Which suggests to most that Greenberg agrees with his pronouncement.
Again, Marley is a Top Rank guy, and a noted Pacquiao backer. He reported that Arum's claims of "negotiations" and "agreements" were phony, days before any Mayweather person made any comment.
Mayweather's guy's wording is probably a bit controversial, and not 100 percent true, but both Marley and Ellebre are basically singing from the same hymn sheet.
Arum completely and utterly exaggerated all claims of "agreements," "deals," "contracts," and "negotiations."
Enough said...Pac's camp never ever wanted this fight. They are playing the fans, media, and Pac-roaches.Comment
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