Why Bernard won, and why Bernard is still the best

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  • Tha_Greatest
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    #81
    Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
    Well, "supposely" he laid out a foundation, but guess what, he laid it out, he didnt do it to its fullest, thats called improvement, over something unfinished.
    But like you said, he still LAID IT OUT, not to the fullest but he still laid it out,You cant take credit off for that causethe fact is He Laid it Out and Pac hasnt won many meaningful rounds sincethe 4th round of the Marquez fight to Morales.

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #82
      Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
      But like you said, he still LAID IT OUT, not to the fullest but he still laid it out,You cant take credit off for that causethe fact is He Laid it Out and Pac hasnt won many meaningful rounds sincethe 4th round of the Marquez fight to Morales.
      In real life, you cant review 40 something fights to find a foundation to someones style, you can only make good judgement, and go on your intinct, you cant look back to see, well, this guy found this out, than the next guy worked on it, than the next guy finally got to the goal, unless its a team effort, which boxing is not, maybe cerdit Morales trainer for that.

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      • scap
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        #83
        Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
        In real life, you cant review 40 something fights to find a foundation to someones style, you can only make good judgement, and go on your intinct, you cant look back to see, well, this guy found this out, than the next guy worked on it, than the next guy finally got to the goal, unless its a team effort, which boxing is not, maybe cerdit Morales trainer for that.

        Hi IWATCH how are you?

        Just checking in on boxingscene #1 poster!

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        • Manny_P
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          #84
          Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
          He dominated Barrera, thats better than a draw, so, Pacman > JMM.

          good post!


          side note: I dont know wut ta hell is wrong wit sum BS members here, cuz I can clearly see that IWatchBoxing got sum killa boxing knowledge. Too many haters here need to chill!

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          • Manny_P
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            #85
            Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
            Or Pacman not winning a fight since 2 years ago, Career is now on a downfall
            or you not knowing how to count and Marquez being a nobody despite havin 2 belts. PATHETIC!!! nyahahaha!

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            • Tha_Greatest
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              #86
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              In real life, you cant review 40 something fights to find a foundation to someones style, you can only make good judgement, and go on your intinct, you cant look back to see, well, this guy found this out, than the next guy worked on it, than the next guy finally got to the goal, unless its a team effort, which boxing is not, maybe cerdit Morales trainer for that.
              First you sort of agree with me that he helped lay down the foundation to beat Pac, but not to the fullest, now you are saying things that you cant lay a foundation and its only good judgment, instinct,make up your mind cause you were making pretty good points but you cant contradict yourself, you sound like a very passionate hardcore ZPuerto Rican fan.

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              • InThisCorner
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                #87
                First off, I would like to say a couple things. For "undisputed" titles, I think they should change the number of rounds to 15. B-Hop would of won that fight hands down if the fight was 3 rounds longer. Taylor fought like a warrior at the end, but Bernard won the "championship" rounds. When the fight is this close, whoever wins the championship rounds, should usually win the fight in my opinion.

                Now, to the fight. IMO, Fight should of been a draw. I was glad to see Jermain wasn't intimidated by Nard. I think he won 6 rounds (1-3, 5-7). He didn't hit B-hop with many clean punches, but he was more active in the first 7 rounds. He doesn't look good when he is not dictating the pace, and he's not that good of an inside fighter. It was a great fight. Can't wait to see the rematch. I'm hoping to see Jermain Taylor win, But i can't bet against Bernard in the rematch, too much experience. He'll study the fight, and work his ass off.

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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Manny_P
                  good post!


                  side note: I dont know wut ta hell is wrong wit sum BS members here, cuz I can clearly see that IWatchBoxing got sum killa boxing knowledge. Too many haters here need to chill!
                  Calm Down, Calm Down, I didnt call you a BS member or i havent said a bad negative thing to you, im just posting opinions just like you are, im not calling out names like you then then you say i got to chill, even though i didnt say negative things towards you, if i offended you im sorry, just calm down , i just wont post a opinion on Pac for the rest of the day

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                  • SacTown1
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                    #89
                    keep on cryin' and whinin' everybody, the fact still remains:

                    Jermain Taylor is the NEW world middleweight champion!

                    All of this nonsense about "Hopkins won the fight" is ridiculous, the 3 scorecards from the judges is ALL that matters, and if B-Hop was soooooo dominant like many of the skeptics are saying, then why did Taylor make it to the final bell? And how come Bernard was only throwing 15-20 punches per round? The answer is simple, taylor was the better man that night, and in the rematch B-Hop might flip the script, but Taylor is the King until proven otherwise

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                    • Manny_P
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SacTown1
                      keep on cryin' and whinin' everybody, the fact still remains:

                      Jermain Taylor is the NEW world middleweight champion!

                      All of this nonsense about "Hopkins won the fight" is ridiculous, the 3 scorecards from the judges is ALL that matters, and if B-Hop was soooooo dominant like many of the skeptics are saying, then why did Taylor make it to the final bell? And how come Bernard was only throwing 15-20 punches per round? The answer is simple, taylor was the better man that night, and in the rematch B-Hop might flip the script, but Taylor is the King until proven otherwise

                      DONE and DONE. Over out! tuuuuuuuut! End of tis thread.

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