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  • southcentralcar
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    #21
    Originally posted by boxasmash
    Wlad is a better boxer, hits harder, has equal speed and a better chin than Tyson.
    aight im out.. youre a ******

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    • boxasmash
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      #22
      Mike Tyson would be easier for for Wlad than Chagaev, styles make fights.

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      • WladIsTheChamp
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        #23
        Originally posted by southcentralcar
        what does that prove ? do i have to name the klitschko losses ? theyre both far from perfect boxers
        It proves that if Tyson in his prime could be beaten by such caliber fighters as Buster Douglas, the Klitschkos would have destroyed him.

        Wlad's true prime is now. Vitaly never lost a fight unless it was due to injury, in a way, he is a pefrect boxer because he was never down on the cards his whole career and his only two losses are due to injury.

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        • WladIsTheChamp
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          #24
          Originally posted by southcentralcar
          theres no need to post explosive ko fighters like buster cuz klitchkos are nothing like him. they take their time and i bet that tyson would have enough time to get a clean shot in. but still no one is arguing that klitchkos are dominating the hw division just that its weak.
          I guess haven't seen any of the Klitschko fights. You are calling Buster Douglas "an explosive KO fighter" and the Klitschkos, with the highest KO% in HW boxing history, not? There is something wrong with you.

          Buster Douglas had a 54% KO ratio, Chris Byrd has a higher percentage than that. Wlad has 85% and Vitaly over 90%. I think you need to stop being biased and look at things the way they really are.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #25
            Originally posted by boxasmash
            Wlad is bigger, better boxer, better jab and hits harder than Mike Tyson.

            Mike would be KOed before he could touch Wlad.
            I agree with everything you said except wlad hits harder than mike. Look, if an out of shape sam peter touches wlad then a prime in shape mike does too. Wlad would get hit and thats the problem. How does he withstand the power?

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            • Chunk..
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              #26
              Wladimir Klitschko's the most dominant boxer in the whole of Europe, never mind the east.

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              • WladIsTheChamp
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                #27
                Originally posted by southcentralcar
                aight im out.. youre a ******
                Wlad is fast as hell. Every trainer and every Wlad opponent has said that.

                -Freddy Roach said he was one of the faster boxers he has ever seen.

                -Emmanuel Steward said that Wlad has unbelievable hand speed for such a big man.

                -Chris Byrd a very slick and fast fighter himself said that he couldn't even see Wlad's punches.

                Mike Tyson looks faster on film because he is much smaller and has shorter hands. Wlad is bigger and it looks as if he is slower but in reality he is much faster.

                I think you might be ******ed based on your post where you said that Buster Douglas "is more of a explosive KO fighter" than the Klitschkos. Now that's ******ed.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                  Tyson's heart would get exposed early by either Klitschko. He was a bully that if you fought back, he would fold. Buster proved this, Lennox proved this, Holyfield proved this, Williams proved this, hell even Kevin McBride proved this.

                  He also struggled against tall fighters; James Smith 6'4", Tony Tucker 6'5", Mitch Green 6'5". All UDs, couldn't KO them, not because they were good, just because they were tall. Klitschkos, with their power, height, and skills, they would make Tyson bounce off the canvas all night, until they either put him out like Wlad vs Chambers, or the ref mercy stoppage like Vitaly vs Williams. I am guessing it would have been like Chambers.
                  if the logic is buster beat a prime mike then there is no point to discuss. Mike's loss to buster was a fluke because buster's mom had just died and mike's whole life was in turmoil. every fighter you point out was post buster when mike was done.

                  The night mike fought spinks, no offense, but wlad ****s his pants on the way to the ring. When mike had rooney in his corner no way klitchkos beat him. Mike did'nt KO those fighters but they all have a better chin than Wlad. Thats the whole point. Wlad will get hit and he wont be able to take it.

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                  • WladIsTheChamp
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Chunk
                    Wladimir Klitschko's the most dominant boxer in the whole of Europe, never mind the east.
                    Change that to the "world", not just one continent.

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                    • WladIsTheChamp
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      if the logic is buster beat a prime mike then there is no point to discuss. Mike's loss to buster was a fluke because buster's mom had just died and mike's whole life was in turmoil. every fighter you point out was post buster when mike was done.

                      The night mike fought spinks, no offense, but wlad ****s his pants on the way to the ring. When mike had rooney in his corner no way klitchkos beat him. Mike did'nt KO those fighters but they all have a better chin than Wlad. Thats the whole point. Wlad will get hit and he wont be able to take it.
                      So that's the excuse you use for Mike: "hey don't count the Douglas loss, Buster's mom died and he became superman all of a sudden. Oh, and don't count his other 5 losses because he was not in his prime." Sad, really sad.

                      Well then don't count Wlad's losses either - Purrity he was just a young kid who punched himself out, he underestimated Sanders, and was drugged against Brewster. Vitaly never lost for real, tore his shoulder against Byrd, and the doctor stopped his fight against Lewis when he was up on the cards. You see how that works?

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