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  • El Jesus
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    no fight should have even been negotiated at all

    If the objective from mayweather was clearly "no cutoff" on random testing, offering a fight is sort of pointless. Bending for 14 days to me is just for show.

    Clearly it worked, i hear all this about how floyd should accept this or that, but if Arum had no intention of offering a deal with no test cutoffs, i wish this circus would have been circumvented by arum just going ahead and negotiating the margarito fight.

    Because frankly...im tired of reading coward this and that.

    Im ok with Pac simply going after the money before facing the toughest fight of his career. Thats what hes entitled to,

    the margarito fight is a dubious sham, but its his career and his money.

    But i just wish no fight would have been offered and created this circus. They knew floyd from the get go wouldnt release leverage and agree to 14 days after SPECIFICLY saying that he wouldnt back in april.

    With that in mind, i sort of feel...i feel like most of you here have been duped on both sides.

    I see alot of people just making excuses for floyd, excuses for pac.

    I know what they are both doing. Floyd made his intentions known.

    For pac, hes hiding his intentions behind "history" and "humility", and hes really no different than floyd. But because hes the greatest athelete in the history of his country, his fights are justified no matter how improbable it is.

    and as fans most of you eat it up from both of them.

    Pac will fight floyd next year, likely with no cutoff and all of this will be erased.

    But until then, i have to be bored out of my mind listening to you people forget that arum had no intention of making this fight this year, and next year, floyd and pac will fight, and most of this will be put behind us.

    Some of you just need to give this a rest. Even this thread contributes little. But when i come to page one and read "Floyd this" "Pac that"

    "floyd coward complation threads"

    You guys really bring down the sport as a whole, because you dont focus on any other fighters.

    You guys bury signifigant news about other fighters who are fighting in the ring without testing or fake titles.

    lets talk about that instead of arguing which shady son of a b!tch is more right.

    How about this, they are both about getting money, period. Once you accept that and stop ****ing stanning and pretending that you are on some righteous crusade for pac or for floyd, then youll realize there is more to this sport than sukkin 2 fighters ****s all day.

    I sincerely think with all the photoshops, aliases, aliases for the aliases, for the first time in my life, i can honestly say, some of you really dont have much going for you outside of this silly bull****. i normally would never say this but thats how i feel. some of yall are some real losers to be concentrating on this day and night, i see the same 5 aliases flooding this board all day with the same garbage having a schitzophrenic convo with each other.

    **** about 98 percent of yall.
  • S H A R K B O Y
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    #2
    5 star thread. See my sig .

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    • Shabba Rank$
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      #3
      Awesome post.

      But prepare to get 35+ pages of non sense to follow.

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      • Ray*
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        #4
        I think its clear from the post fight interview in the Mayweather-Mosley fight that its Random testing all the way up to the fight or NO FIGHT, The financial side is another problem, So anyone offering Mayweather a 14 days cut-off and 50-50 is wasting his time,our time and just getting our hopes up.

        Having just made 40M against Mosley he isnt desperate to bend over like he did when he agreed to 50-50 and a cut-off date, Unless Mayweather needs money we wouldnt see this fight happening.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #5
          So there shouldn't be a fight unless Pacquiao gives in to everything Floyd wants? How do you know Arum wasn't starting at 14 days and was eventually going to end up at 2 or 3 days? That's why it's called negotiations. Floyd never bothered to negotiate, that's why it never got past the terms we heard before.

          It sounds like you are saying there shouldn't be negotiations unless Pacquiao doesn't negotiate, and just gives in to Floyd, which is ******.

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          • southcentralcar
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            #6
            Originally posted by El Jesus
            If the objective from mayweather was clearly "no cutoff" on random testing, offering a fight is sort of pointless. Bending for 14 days to me is just for show.

            Clearly it worked, i hear all this about how floyd should accept this or that, but if Arum had no intention of offering a deal with no test cutoffs, i wish this circus would have been circumvented by arum just going ahead and negotiating the margarito fight.

            Because frankly...im tired of reading coward this and that.

            Im ok with Pac simply going after the money before facing the toughest fight of his career. Thats what hes entitled to,

            the margarito fight is a dubious sham, but its his career and his money.

            But i just wish no fight would have been offered and created this circus. They knew floyd from the get go wouldnt release leverage and agree to 14 days after SPECIFICLY saying that he wouldnt back in april.

            With that in mind, i sort of feel...i feel like most of you here have been duped on both sides.

            I see alot of people just making excuses for floyd, excuses for pac.

            I know what they are both doing. Floyd made his intentions known.

            For pac, hes hiding his intentions behind "history" and "humility", and hes really no different than floyd. But because hes the greatest athelete in the history of his country, his fights are justified no matter how improbable it is.

            and as fans most of you eat it up from both of them.

            Pac will fight floyd next year, likely with no cutoff and all of this will be erased.

            But until then, i have to be bored out of my mind listening to you people forget that arum had no intention of making this fight this year, and next year, floyd and pac will fight, and most of this will be put behind us.

            Some of you just need to give this a rest. Even this thread contributes little. But when i come to page one and read "Floyd this" "Pac that"

            "floyd coward complation threads"

            You guys really bring down the sport as a whole, because you dont focus on any other fighters.

            You guys bury signifigant news about other fighters who are fighting in the ring without testing or fake titles.

            lets talk about that instead of arguing which shady son of a b!tch is more right.

            How about this, they are both about getting money, period. Once you accept that and stop ****ing stanning and pretending that you are on some righteous crusade for pac or for floyd, then youll realize there is more to this sport than sukkin 2 fighters ****s all day.

            I sincerely think with all the photoshops, aliases, aliases for the aliases, for the first time in my life, i can honestly say, some of you really dont have much going for you outside of this silly bull****. i normally would never say this but thats how i feel. some of yall are some real losers to be concentrating on this day and night, i see the same 5 aliases flooding this board all day with the same garbage having a schitzophrenic convo with each other.

            **** about 98 percent of yall.
            true. thats what i feel. it was clear that no way will Floyd get back to the old deal all this bull**** was just made to look pacquiao look good

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            • Ray*
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              #7
              Originally posted by bojangles1987
              So there shouldn't be a fight unless Pacquiao gives in to everything Floyd wants? How do you know Arum wasn't starting at 14 days and was eventually going to end up at 2 or 3 days? That's why it's called negotiations. Floyd never bothered to negotiate, that's why it never got past the terms we heard before.

              It sounds like you are saying there shouldn't be negotiations unless Pacquiao doesn't negotiate, and just gives in to Floyd, which is ******.

              I kinda agree with you about the negotiating point but why continue to "Negotiate" when are not getting anywhere? The sticky point should NEVER EVER have been because of random testing.

              If it was about money now then i could understand both sides but its about testing which benefits both fighters not one so there shouldnt be any "Negotiating" when it comes to testing.

              So for me if the problem from Team Mayweather's side is testing then am standing with his comment about "Testing all the way up to the fight or we got NO fight" i stand for this 100%.

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              • ummeed
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                #8
                Originally posted by El Jesus
                If the objective from mayweather was clearly "no cutoff" on random testing, offering a fight is sort of pointless. Bending for 14 days to me is just for show.

                Clearly it worked, i hear all this about how floyd should accept this or that, but if Arum had no intention of offering a deal with no test cutoffs, i wish this circus would have been circumvented by arum just going ahead and negotiating the margarito fight.

                Because frankly...im tired of reading coward this and that.

                Im ok with Pac simply going after the money before facing the toughest fight of his career. Thats what hes entitled to,

                the margarito fight is a dubious sham, but its his career and his money.

                But i just wish no fight would have been offered and created this circus. They knew floyd from the get go wouldnt release leverage and agree to 14 days after SPECIFICLY saying that he wouldnt back in april.

                With that in mind, i sort of feel...i feel like most of you here have been duped on both sides.

                I see alot of people just making excuses for floyd, excuses for pac.

                I know what they are both doing. Floyd made his intentions known.

                For pac, hes hiding his intentions behind "history" and "humility", and hes really no different than floyd. But because hes the greatest athelete in the history of his country, his fights are justified no matter how improbable it is.

                and as fans most of you eat it up from both of them.

                Pac will fight floyd next year, likely with no cutoff and all of this will be erased.

                But until then, i have to be bored out of my mind listening to you people forget that arum had no intention of making this fight this year, and next year, floyd and pac will fight, and most of this will be put behind us.

                Some of you just need to give this a rest. Even this thread contributes little. But when i come to page one and read "Floyd this" "Pac that"

                "floyd coward complation threads"

                You guys really bring down the sport as a whole, because you dont focus on any other fighters.

                You guys bury signifigant news about other fighters who are fighting in the ring without testing or fake titles.

                lets talk about that instead of arguing which shady son of a b!tch is more right.

                How about this, they are both about getting money, period. Once you accept that and stop ****ing stanning and pretending that you are on some righteous crusade for pac or for floyd, then youll realize there is more to this sport than sukkin 2 fighters ****s all day.

                I sincerely think with all the photoshops, aliases, aliases for the aliases, for the first time in my life, i can honestly say, some of you really dont have much going for you outside of this silly bull****. i normally would never say this but thats how i feel. some of yall are some real losers to be concentrating on this day and night, i see the same 5 aliases flooding this board all day with the same garbage having a schitzophrenic convo with each other.

                **** about 98 percent of yall.
                translation:

                don't just blame floyd. arum and pac are also both douches for just partly bending down instead of going down completely on all fours with their asses up and puckered up.

                but doooooon't worry there's always a next yeaaar! heyo!

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ray*

                  I kinda agree with you about the negotiating point but why continue to "Negotiate" when are not getting anywhere? The sticky point should NEVER EVER have been because of random testing.

                  If it was about money now then i could understand both sides but its about testing which benefits both fighters not one so there shouldnt be any "Negotiating" when it comes to testing.

                  So for me if the problem from Team Mayweather's side is testing then am standing with his comment about "Testing all the way up to the fight or we got NO fight" i stand for this 100%.
                  Well you're never going to see Arum say "Pac has completely given in, full blood testing whenever you want." They are going to have to negotiate seriously for Arum to give in to that, because they will NEVER give Floyd full power like that. It would completely weaken the base Pacquiao foolishly built for his side of the argument. So take the first step, and start negotiating.

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                  • southcentralcar
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ummeed
                    translation:

                    don't just blame floyd. arum and pac are also both douches for just partly bending down instead of going down completely on all fours with their asses up and puckered up.

                    but doooooon't worry there's always a next yeaaar! heyo!
                    you wanna blame someone ?blame pacquaio cuz at least we are 100% sure that he ruined it the first time. he was offered the cut off date and said no to it. now we see him fight other cheaters.. **** him

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