I honestly belive that Margarito didnt know about plaster in wraps!

[El 7 Mares V.2]

There's a chance he didn't know and I feel he deserves a second chance. i'm a guy who dislikes Margarito in a sense that I feel his claim to fame and what has put his name out there is supposedly being ducked by a guy who has earned his place at the top of the sport. I dislike fighters who get there rep from saying oh this guy won't fight me all the while you are losing to fringe contenders and unproven fighters. I think thats ridiculous. I feel that he should have to earn a fight with Pac by proving he's still at that level in this sport against top contenders which he has not done. Margarito deserves a second chance but not against one of the leaders in the sport manny pacquiao... at least not yet.

Can't get anymore ignorant than this...Margarito's reached the top by just calling out fighters? are you kidding me...? you can't possibly be THIS dumb.

[Franco2012]

Margarito fans get worked up when people bring up him having loaded gloves against cotto but seriously if Marg truly had no idea what was in his gloves then isnt it likely that he was "tricked" by his trainer in the past.

Yea but its kind a strange that even Manny Stewart never found it in Cinton 2 fight.

And he has like 60 years experience in boxing !

[gqjohnb]

If there is anything true about the whole hand wrap fiasco the closest thing to the truth could be the added gauze that Capetillo might have added to add more "pop" much like the way Tito's father used to wrap his hands. Could this have made a much more difference in punching power? perhaps, do I condone this? of course not and if the commissioning thought it was the right thing to suspend both Margarito and Capetillo for this, I agree.

As far as Tony knowing about it or not then I thought it was the correct punishment to suspend them for a year, but to tarnish this man's whole career by spreading lies like using "cement" "concrete block inserts" and "plaster of paris" and comparing this to Resto is downright shameful and the people who actually started all of these rumors including Brother Naz, they all should be ashamed and guilty of false accusations.

I'm not claiming Tony's innocence by saying Steward didn't noticed anything, but be real for one second, how can such tampering never had been noticed in Tony's 40+ fights he's been on? or even yet to be more objective, the 20+ fights he's been under Capetillo's belt? it's just mind boggling to think nobody in the state commissioning they were fighting under plus the other fighters corner not have noticed such tampering, I mentioned Steward because he is one of the most known and experienced trainers in the game right now, and I am highly confident that Nazeem Richardson has no weird mystical powers that can detect tampering more than any of the other trainers that have been in the opposite corner of Tony's fights.

You also come off as very hypocritical man because you preach about second chances and that Marg was ignorant of what was going on but at the same time in your sig you burn Mosley and call him the dopeman. Their circumstances were not that different mosley was "fooled" into giving his body an edge with drugs and Margarito was supposedly "fooled" into attaching weapons to his hands. I put that in quotation because we don't really know what they knew at the time. I've been guilty of being to judgemental on Marg mostly because I dislike him as a fighter.

[gqjohnb]

Can't get anymore ignorant than this...Margarito's reached the top by just calling out fighters? are you kidding me...? you can't possibly be THIS dumb.

Alright... let me ask you this... what was Margarito's best victory when he first called out floyd and was considered this monster and WW elite? Cintron? What I don't understand is that how can you say outright a guy who couldn't beat Daniel Santos in two tries can claim that he is being "ducked" by a guy who has cleared out divisions and was considered elite before Marg was even a whisper. If it weren't for the luster of him being "ducked" by Mayweather do you feel he would be the household name he is? Now i'm not saying he hasn't accomplished anything in his career but he has not accomplished enough to be considered in with the likes of Pacquiao, Mayweather, or even Mosley. He's overrated.

[gqjohnb]

Can't get anymore ignorant than this...Margarito's reached the top by just calling out fighters? are you kidding me...? you can't possibly be THIS dumb.

Also in his 40+ fights the only non paper championship he's held he defended no more than zero times as after he beat cotto he was decimated by mosley in his first title defense. DECIMATED not a close drag out fight but a complete wash out leading to a KO.

[gqjohnb]

Can't get anymore ignorant than this...Margarito's reached the top by just calling out fighters? are you kidding me...? you can't possibly be THIS dumb.

Just keeping the thread on top of the board to remind you to respond.

[Smokin'J]

[fdotorres]

4:34

a cheater defending another cheater. what should he do, publicly crucify him?

[fdotorres]

If there is anything true about the whole hand wrap fiasco the closest thing to the truth could be the added gauze that Capetillo might have added to add more "pop" much like the way Tito's father used to wrap his hands. Could this have made a much more difference in punching power? perhaps, do I condone this? of course not and if the commissioning thought it was the right thing to suspend both Margarito and Capetillo for this, I agree.

As far as Tony knowing about it or not then I thought it was the correct punishment to suspend them for a year, but to tarnish this man's whole career by spreading lies like using "cement" "concrete block inserts" and "plaster of paris" and comparing this to Resto is downright shameful and the people who actually started all of these rumors including Brother Naz, they all should be ashamed and guilty of false accusations.

I'm not claiming Tony's innocence by saying Steward didn't noticed anything, but be real for one second, how can such tampering never had been noticed in Tony's 40+ fights he's been on? or even yet to be more objective, the 20+ fights he's been under Capetillo's belt? it's just mind boggling to think nobody in the state commissioning they were fighting under plus the other fighters corner not have noticed such tampering, I mentioned Steward because he is one of the most known and experienced trainers in the game right now, and I am highly confident that Nazeem Richardson has no weird mystical powers that can detect tampering more than any of the other trainers that have been in the opposite corner of Tony's fights.

trinidad didn't add extra pop according to naz. he put tape directly onto the skin in order to add protection to the hand. it is even legal in most states, not just new york

capetillo added hardened gauze+tape, which is VERY similar to a plaster block, although a bit more malleable. go to a local pharmacy and check a tape+gauze roll, get it wet and let it dry to see what happens. heck, even capetillo admitted putting BOTH blocks by "mistake"

[fdotorres]

I dont know how Trinidad got away with it,everyone was saying for years that dude hits like heavyweight and when he got cought,he still could fought few years later in MSG and in the MGM!

what he did was legal in most tapes. the commissioner even offered naz to wrap hopkin's hand the same way instead of making trinidad rewrap his hans