I honestly belive that Margarito didnt know about plaster in wraps!

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  • edgarg
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    #31
    Originally posted by Elbichogrande
    Because it wasn't an issue on the cotto fight. No one suspected cheato was loading his gloves. But when the **** hit the fan, thats when they saw cheatos wraps in the cotto fight looking like
    What do you see in those wrappings that I don't see. The reddish stain, I believe is very common, and probably comes fromthe red dyed gloves, saturated with perspiration, the other little squiggle, looks exactly like a marker signature signing off on the pre fight dressing room inspection.

    Sooooo What...What...

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    • elhijoprodigo
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      #32
      Originally posted by edgarg
      What do you see in those wrappings that I don't see. The reddish stain, I believe is very common, and probably comes fromthe red dyed gloves, saturated with perspiration, the other little squiggle, looks exactly like a marker signature signing off on the pre fight dressing room inspection.

      Sooooo What...What...
      do you not see the wraps with the peeling cement? there is a whole on the wraps. Looks like peeling paint.

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      • edgarg
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        #33
        Originally posted by scr4vey
        Err? you really are dumb aren't you? They don't mean 'bricks' in a literal sense you idiot, ****m probably described it as blocks because when it came out it probably made a loud noise resembling a solid object because of the plaster of paris. Please don't give me this nonsense about 'oh it was just some old wrappings from the gym, it was just worn out'. Haha, no you sheep - it was PLASTER OF PARIS which is why they handed down such a severe punishment. Plaster of paris is a type of building material, so yeah it's not outrageous it's been called 'bricks'. Once this material gets hard, it's like cement - again for the slow ones, there is no DOUBT plaster of paris substance was found in the wrappings. So I don't know why you're getting angry at people calling it 'bricks' or 'blocks', because in the end Shane would of felt like he was getting his face smashed in with boxing gloves loaded with bricks hadn't it been for ****m.
        Thanks for the info...I always thought that plaster of paris was mainly used in medical circles for immobilising fractured or broken limbs etc.

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        • Smokin'J
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          • Smokin'J
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              #36
              Originally posted by edgarg
              You obviously did not read the comments I posted the day before yesterday on this very subject. I'll repeat them.

              Many years ago in either the 1950's or 60's, Ring Magazine, (or perhaps Boxing Illustrated, but I believe Ring) then under Nat Fleisher, Mr. Boxing, the Founder and Publisher. (and regarded as The Bilble of Boxing) conducted a serious experiment. This was because Doc kearns, Jack Dempsey's devious manager had come out with a statement, either on the air, or in a book, (can't recall) that HE HAD sprinkled plaster of paris on Dempsey's wrappings and then wet them.

              Of course had he actually done this, Dempsey must have collaborated, and Dempsey vehemently denied it. Anyway, the experimenters did it several ways, including making an insert, thick enough to (ostensibly) do damage, but thin enough to go into the glove, and in each case, waited until it had hardened.

              Then Dempsey flexed his hands........ If the "plaster" had not broken from that, which it mostly did, is absolutely disintegrated into useless slivers and powder, when Dempsey punched a bag a few times.

              THIS PROVED CONCLUSIVELY FOR ALL TIME, that Dempsey did NOT have loaded gloves for the Jess Willard fight.

              I'm sure that some bright computer spark can probably pull up the very article(s) detailing this experiment.

              After the Dempsey fight, his destruction of Willard was so complete, shattering bones etc. that people kept coming forward in the years after, displaying small slabs of iron, which they said they'd picked up in the ring, after the fight...................

              ANYWAY, the above was a serious experiment. and the result is actually published in an old Ring Magazine, as i can testify.

              I think Dan Daniel was involved with it at the time too, maybe Nat Loubet also, later Ring Publisher after Fleisher died in 1972.
              The story was covered by the very credible Sports Illustrated and not Ring Magazine.

              This thread covers it:

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              • Franco2012
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                #37
                SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE:

                2:22

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                • El 7 Mares V.2
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  The story was covered by the very credible Sports Illustrated and not Ring Magazine.

                  This thread covers it:

                  http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=263497
                  Thanx for that link, really puts a lot of things into perspective.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                    Thanx for that link, really puts a lot of things into perspective.
                    It showed that Kearns story was untrue. It has nothing to do with Margarito's case which is quite different.

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                    • Franco2012
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                      #40
                      If insepctors said he aint guilty then he aint guilty.

                      I mean how dumb can you be to volunteer to show your wraps if you knew that you have plaster in your wraps and you didnt need to show it!

                      If he didnt volounteer then they would never find out that plaster!

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