If Tito did not exist in Varga's life....would he be a ATG?

[poeticlsykuac]

He was young and unexperienced and still gave Tito...a PRIME tito a good fight.

Exactly, Tito ruined some good fighters. I don't think Vargas would be an ATG but, I believe a shoe in HOF if it wasn't for that. Vargas would have beat DLH and Mosley pre-Tito. He just wasn't the same after that. Vargas was a monster before that Tito fight. His power was outstanding, don't forget he did hurt Tito multiple times, a punch that flew just south of the border changed a lot in one round as well when Tito was hurt badly. I am not thinking Vargas would have KO'd Tito but he definitely had him in trouble for a moment in that fight.

[Chuckguy]

Oscar beat that az and Paquita was on the juice
doesnt get more demoralizing than that
so to answer your question Ric
HEll NO
Vargas was average but fought with heart so people liked him

[extracurRICular]

Vargas was to ****** to ever be an ATG,. Kinda like judah

Too ******??? what's that got to do with ATGness??? Most boxers are "******" or came from the ******.....that was just a dumb-ass comment no lie....

[extracurRICular]

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Pinche Juanaga......that was funny.....hahaha.......post in the Hispanic Lang joto I dig your Alt!!!!!!!! hahahha

[poeticlsykuac]

Oscar beat that az and Paquita was on the juice
doesnt get more demoralizing than that
so to answer your question Ric
HEll NO
Vargas was average but fought with heart so people liked him

If you are using the DLH and Pac fight you you really need to research more.

Never watched Vargas pre-Tito did you? He was a beast, speed, power, boxing skills, a chin pre-casted Tito's hands, and heart. I don't think you have watched enough of Vargas to judge him to be honest.

[extracurRICular]

Exactly, Tito ruined some good fighters. I don't think Vargas would be an ATG but, I believe a shoe in HOF if it wasn't for that. Vargas would have beat DLH and Mosley pre-Tito. He just wasn't the same after that. Vargas was a monster before that Tito fight. His power was outstanding, don't forget he did hurt Tito multiple times, a punch that flew just south of the border changed a lot in one round as well when Tito was hurt badly. I am not thinking Vargas would have KO'd Tito but he definitely had him in trouble for a moment in that fight.

So you don't have Vargas even as a HOFer??? interesting.......

[extracurRICular]

Oscar beat that az and Paquita was on the juice
doesnt get more demoralizing than that
so to answer your question Ric
HEll NO
Vargas was average but fought with heart so people liked him

Paquita???? I know you are reffering to Vargas and not Pac...but why Paquita???

[Chuckguy]

If you are using the DLH and Pac fight you you really need to research more.

Never watched Vargas pre-Tito did you? He was a beast, speed, power, boxing skills, a chin pre-casted Tito's hands, and heart. I don't think you have watched enough of Vargas to judge him to be honest.

was
woulda
shouda
coulda
all past tense
its irrelevant
he never won a big fight
no one ever remembers a loser
I watched him get a gift against Winky
I watched him beat up past prime fighters

[poeticlsykuac]

So you don't have Vargas even as a HOFer??? interesting.......

I don't think he has enough wins over top competition. He fell short to many times. He was the talent that never came too. Judah is another good example of this. HOF skills however just not that impressive of a winning resume.

I was a huge fan of Vargas, still got a lil love for him. He just doesn't have any wins outside of that Winky fight he lost to everyone. DLH, Mosley, Tito, and Mayorga. He has his Campas, Rivera, Quartey, Marquez, and Winky wins. Outside of Winky there is not one HOF there. Quartey should have got the W in the DLH fight so he may have ended up as a HOF if it weren't for some poor officiating.

Seriously though what would throw him on the HOF list?

[poeticlsykuac]

was
woulda
shouda
coulda
all past tense
its irrelevant
he never won a big fight
no one ever remembers a loser
I watched him get a gift against Winky
I watched him beat up past prime fighters

Should I really argue with someone who can't spell Should of, Would of, Could of, it's? You are ridiculous I just don't think DLH or Mosley could have beat Vargas with out Tito getting there first. You need to go watch him before you state your BS opinion, you are just coming across as an ignorant, unintelligent, opinionated moron.