ELLERBE: "Calling to ask what Floyd wants is NOT a negotiation..."

[IMDAZED]

Yeah, I couldn't disagree with you more. I like to watch fights.

I do too but I don't like paying for bull****. Oh, I'll watch. I just won't pay. And the fact that I'm a boxing fanatic doesn't mean I should get treated like a sucker.

[RimmyDelicious]

Cotto beat Mosley, no doubt. But Mosley gave a really good account of himself. It was close but Cotto was the clear victor. Anyway, I don't even understand your point here, Cotto was a different animal during that time.

My point is that I can just as easily discredit Floyd's recent victories (which I don't by the way) as Vito dismisses Margarito for his lose to Mosley.

[IMDAZED]

Of Manny Pacquaio's last 6 fights, 3 of them (Hatton, DLH, Marquez) were Golden Boy fighters. Of Floyd Mayweather's last 6 fights, 4 of them (Mosley, Marquez, Hatton and DLH), and his last four fights in a row, were all in house fights against Golden Boy fighters.

Don't forget that Manny was contractually bound to GBP as well - in those fights.

[Vito Corleone]

Bradley, martinez, Williams or Berto are all better options than Margaret.

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Hell...I think Devon Alexander is a better fight than Margarito. Pac could still make 140 comfortably...right?

Or just hold the bout at junior mannyweight. I'm sure Dev wouldn't object.

[The Big Dunn]

Of Manny Pacquaio's last 6 fights, 3 of them (Hatton, DLH, Marquez) were Golden Boy fighters. Of Floyd Mayweather's last 6 fights, 4 of them (Mosley, Marquez, Hatton and DLH), and his last four fights in a row, were all in house fights against Golden Boy fighters.

fair point. But manny's last fight turned out to be a sham. Clottey never tried to win.
Cotto, Shane, Hatton, JMM, tried to win. ODH was in it for the money in both fights. The marg fight, given where he is in his career, looks more like Clottey than the others. Agreed?

[Vito Corleone]

My point is that I can just as easily discredit Floyd's recent victories (which I don't by the way) as Vito dismisses Margarito for his lose to Mosley.

It's not THAT he lost... it's HOW he lost.

Why are all of Pac's opponents coming off brutal KO losses

*all = obvious hyperbole

[RimmyDelicious]

I do too but I don't like paying for bull****. Oh, I'll watch. I just won't pay. And the fact that I'm a boxing fanatic doesn't mean I should get treated like a sucker.

So the fight interests you enough that you will watch it? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you, like me and millions of other boxing fans are going to be very excited and looking forward to this fight when it approaches. I appreciate that Manny isn't going on vacation the rest of the year and is fighting this "tune up". I wish Floyd would fight a "tune up" like that this winter.

[IMDAZED]

So the fight interests you enough that you will watch it? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you, like me and millions of other boxing fans are going to be very excited and looking forward to this fight when it approaches. I appreciate that Manny isn't going on vacation the rest of the year and is fighting this "tune up". I wish Floyd would fight a "tune up" like that this winter.

No, I'm such a boxing fan I'd watch it (for free). Dude, I watch Telemundo and Fox en Espanol weekly . I don't appreciate Manny charging me to watch a fight against a fighter who doesn't deserve it, especially when there are FAR more deserving opponents out there. I don't appreciate that **** one bit. Like I said, just cuz I'm a fan doesn't mean I'm a sucker.

[RimmyDelicious]

fair point. But manny's last fight turned out to be a sham. Clottey never tried to win.
Cotto, Shane, Hatton, JMM, tried to win. ODH was in it for the money in both fights. The marg fight, given where he is in his career, looks more like Clottey than the others. Agreed?

Shane did not try to win. He quit half way through the fight and just fought to survive, just as Clottey did. I attribute that more to Mayweather's brilliance than anything Shane lacks, just as I attribute Clottey's "poor performance" to Manny's brilliance.

[Dynamite Kid]

Because it's a moot point? He's asking for testing he'd take himself. Come on, man.

Gloves, ring size, weight penalties. A test, by nature, is not baseless (lol wtf?). Unless you think Floyd is saying he's guilty too since he's taking the same test.

What is your point here? Do you have to be so childish? Anyone who knows me knows I defended Margarito to no end and was a HUGE backer of his back in 2006 when he should've gotten a fight against Floyd. Grow up.


Ok suit yourself. Regardless, he hasn't had a significant win in two years. And doesn't deserve the shot. Period.

Whatever you say, man

Not coincidental at all. When it comes to the Mayweather-Pacquiao issue, I believe Floyd is in the right. I'm not afraid to admit that. What you're not realizing is, when I believe Floyd is in the wrong, I'll say it too. Period. Whether you choose to believe that or not is irrelevant because - AGAIN - this is not about *******/***** or hater crap.

Why cant u understand the point im making, you know that im referring to being insulted by the claims, which any fighter would be if you insinuated such a thing, particularly without evidence. Mayweather had not initially!!! been the victim of Pac insinuating he was on drugs, he was the one throwing insinuations around, how on earth could he conceivably demand something he would not do himself? he dont get a pat on the back for saying he would do it to Lol, lets see if he would be so willing to oblige if Pac insinuated he is a stead head, given Mayweather's massive ego i strongly believe he wouldn't, infact that he would rather walk away from the fight than even come to a compromise.


They already have official!! tests in place, but they are stipulated by commissions, not by Mayweather.


Just makes me laugh, you sound like a Pac detractor trying to prove his objectivity, it kinda goes against the grain of what you have said, particularly with all the stuff you back Mayweather on, which seems to be everything, you already openly admitted to thinking that Pac is knowingly taking drugs.


I know its not a coincidence.