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  • #81
    Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
    So you're saying that a title can only be on the line if the fight is held at the absolute weight class limit?
    You're damn right I'm saying that.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      If you're not big enough to fight for the 154lb title... then don't fight for it.
      thank you sir .....its just that ****in simple!!!!!!

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
        So you're saying that a title can only be on the line if the fight is held at the absolute weight class limit?
        just imagine this bull****: margarito comes in at 152 for example and he'll be considered over the limit for a 154 title bout ! wtf ?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
          You're damn right I'm saying that.
          Ok, how about if both fighters weight in below the weight class limit for a title fight? Should the belt not be up for grabs?

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          • #85
            Originally posted by southcentralcar View Post
            just imagine this bull****: margarito comes in at 152 for example and he'll be considered over the limit for a 154 title bout ! wtf ?
            Is there a weight limit penalty?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
              There's no such thing as a 154lb title. Its called a JMW title, and that falls anywhere between 148-154lbs.
              Your opponent should be able to come in within the weight class limit.

              Don't give me that **** about Manny being too small because he should stay at 147 instead of moving up to 154 and cherry picking. I would say the same thing to Floyd if he made Martinez come in under the limit for a fight at 160.

              They should fight at 147 for Pac's belt.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                Ok, how about if both fighters weight in below the weight class limit for a title fight? Should the belt not be up for grabs?
                That makes absolutely no sense and doesn't relate to the fact there is a weight limit for each divsion. Which gives the fighters the OPTION of weighing in at the limit or below it. You're grasping at straws.
                Last edited by Calilloyd; 07-26-2010, 01:50 PM.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Calilloyd View Post
                  That makes absolutely no sense and doesn't relate to the fact there is a weight limit for each divsion. Which gives the fighters the OPTION of weighing in at the limit or below it. Your grasping at straws.
                  What i'm saying is, If Margarito agrees, and the fight is held at 150 (which still classifies it as a jww bout), Why shouldnt it be for a title? If the title holder is willing to put it on the line at a catchweight, who are we to say otherwise?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    Is there a weight limit penalty?
                    there will be not sure how big though. but thats just ridiculous getting penalised when ur actually not over jmw limit.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by phook View Post
                      I just realize this whole fight is ridiculous.. it is so mismatch than ODLH vs Pacquiao..
                      Margarito‎ is 5'11 he is a giant compare to Pacquiao.. remember how Pacquiao wanted to fight Margarito‎ we all think "no way.. this fight isn't happening.. Margarito‎ is too big"? Pacquiao is requesting to fight in a catch weight and now everyone seems to against it.. I mean c'mon the fight should not been taken place to begin with.. and you thought ODLH was bad.. Margarito‎ is alot taller than him...
                      Im sick and tired of ppl here bashing Pacquiao about catch weight.. This fight should at the very LEAST fight in a catch-weight..
                      it's a full of **** thing to do, it's making you seem like you won the title that is to be contested at 154 at 154 when you really won it at 150. it becomes a problem because once you tamper with the weight limit it's no longer considered a title bout that division. bottom line is this, if you in a fight where the limit was 150, where coming in if you were 151, 152, 153 or 154 you were considered over the limit it would be wrong to have that fight as a Junior Middleweight fight. I don't like this for Boxing, Pacquiao is creating his own standards and I think it's a bad message to send to someone to say since I can't make 154 but I still want a title there I'll only do half the required work and training to handle a man that size, I'll make it so that instead of ME having to go up pounds and have a harder time I could tell my opponent to come down some and STILL make it for that belt because there is nothing really admirable about pulling strings to get your way in a sport like Boxing where everything should be EVEN..

                      moves like this surpass the opponents it actually is something the commission should be pissed off but they're not, this doesn't happen a lot but with Manny Pacquiao it's going to happen in his last 2 title victories so in a way he's doing what he says Floyd is trying to do and that's go around commission rules except due to his promotional teams leverage on the inside the commission agrees with it and it all gets swept under the rug. YOU just looking at it from a Brick Layer VS Pacquiao point of view and I'm looking at it in a Boxer VS Commission point of view. belts should ONLY be contested in a bout where the proper limit is in place

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