Comments Thread For: Povetkin Should Have Taken a Chance, Fought Klitschko

[Mikhnienko]

This is a very good article.

Povetkin has gained nothing and made himself look foolish and cowardly for backing out of the fight several weeks after it went to purse bid, with the venue and date already set up.

He'll probably need to defeat a top contender in order to receive another title shot now. It may not be so easy.

WBO

1. Alexander Povetkin
2. David Tua
3. Tomasz Adamek
4. Denis Boytsov
5. Ruslan Chagaev
6. Samuel Peter
7. Nicolay Valuev
8. Alexander Dimitrenko
9. Odlainier Solis
10. Chris Arreola

If Tua drops down in the rankings which he deserves to after that barrett fight then it'll probably be Adamek vs Povetkin (a fight i'd love to see) for an eliminator.

If Sasha is so unprepared then 1 fight vs adamek won't help any so he may very well drop out of that fight too.

Boytsov is just coming off a injury and i don't think his people would want him taking such a huge step up anayways.

5-7 have either already lost to volodymyr or refuse to fight him.

So perhaps Tua at a lower ranking or Dimitrenko or Solis wouljd slide into the eliminator fight. Whatever the case having all these cowardly ****** like Haye, Povetkin, Valuev is ***ing shameful.

[Clegg]

I don't think Valuev is as bad as Haye and Povetkin though. From what I've read, Valuev wants a bit more money. Not saying I agree or disagree, but he has apparently been offered less than DH and AP, and he also has to worry about Don King stealing most of what he gets paid as well, whereas those two don't.

Haye and Povetkin wouldn't fight Wlad even if they were offered more cash to do so. Valuev on the other hand probably would.

[Mikhnienko]

I don't think Valuev is as bad as Haye and Povetkin though. From what I've read, Valuev wants a bit more money. Not saying I agree or disagree, but he has apparently been offered less than DH and AP, and he also has to worry about Don King stealing most of what he gets paid as well, whereas those two don't.

Haye and Povetkin wouldn't fight Wlad even if they were offered more cash to do so. Valuev on the other hand probably would.

Yeah i don't think Valuev is a ***** like the other two, he's just to ***ing ****** to realize that Don King will do everything in his power to not let that fight take place.

[The Hammer]

I don't think Valuev is as bad as Haye and Povetkin though. From what I've read, Valuev wants a bit more money. Not saying I agree or disagree, but he has apparently been offered less than DH and AP, and he also has to worry about Don King stealing most of what he gets paid as well, whereas those two don't.

Haye and Povetkin wouldn't fight Wlad even if they were offered more cash to do so. Valuev on the other hand probably would.

Yes.

The barriers to Vitali fighting Valuev have more to do with Don King than Valuev himself.

[Ravens Fan]

what a load of bullcrap

I am not the one with the strange obsession with the Klit brothers. That would be the one and only Teddy Atlas. And if you don't believe me just listen to him talk about them because it borders on the bizarre. And I will ask you if Povetkin was going to fight Haye do you really think Atlas would have pulled the plug? And it was not only about the fight being called off, after all **** happens, it was also the totally unprofessional way Atlas went about doing it and he really should be ashamed of himself. And I have to wonder when will Atlas believe that his fighter will be ready for a Klit brother? After another four or five or six fights when he will be 34 years old? And how many more Leo Nolans or Javier Moras of world can Povetkin possibly beat to be any more prepared to fight Wlad then he is right now? And yes maybe my little scenario was a load of crap, as you called it, but at the very least Atlas has perpetrated a bad joke on us as boxing fans.

[Tiozzo]

I think there is a more sinister reason why Atlas will not allow his fighter to fight one of the Klit brothers. I believe it is simply because Atlas hates the brothers so much that his ego will not allow a fighter of his to lose to one them. And he knows that is exactly what would happen regardless of how many more tune up fights Povetkin might have. I would bet good money that there would be no hesitation on the part of Atlas if Povetkin was in line to fight Haye for the WBA belt instead of Wlad or Vitali. And I use to like Atlas but in my opinion he has become rather bizarre.

I am not the one with the strange obsession with the Klit brothers. That would be the one and only Teddy Atlas. And if you don't believe me just listen to him talk about them because it borders on the bizarre. And I will ask you if Povetkin was going to fight Haye do you really think Atlas would have pulled the plug? And it was not only about the fight being called off, after all **** happens, it was also the totally unprofessional way Atlas went about doing it and he really should be ashamed of himself. And I have to wonder when will Atlas believe that his fighter will be ready for a Klit brother? After another four or five or six fights when he will be 34 years old? And how many more Leo Nolans or Javier Moras of world can Povetkin possibly beat to be any more prepared to fight Wlad then he is right now? And yes maybe my little scenario was a load of crap, as you called it, but at the very least Atlas has perpetrated a bad joke on us as boxing fans.

I completely agree on one point, Atlas and team Povetkin behaved in a very unprofessional way towards team Wladimir (and the fans)

I disagree when you say Atlas pulled out because his ego won't allow himself to let his fighter get beaten by a Klitschko

Atlas may have an ''obsession'' with the Klits, he does talk a whole lot more about them than he should and pick their opponents to beat them (even when it happens to be clear mismatches)

but we must not forget Atlas is forever linked to the destiny of one of the greatest HW champion ever, Tyson, so maybe he is bitter when he watches those Eastern Europeans dominate while the Americans are just helpless

maybe he just feels it is useless to send Povetkin in a fight he feels he can't win now (or never can win, we're not in his head)

I just don't buy the ego thing

and another thing, I do think that Atlas wouldn't have pulled out Povetkin of a fight against Haye, but not because of his ego, rather because Haye and Klitschko are 2 different animals, Haye does look like a more winnable fight to everybody (smaller fighter, less experience, less difficult to hit, shorter reach, suspect chin, etc.)

I do believe like most people that Povetkin should have grabbed this chance, he's no longer a young man, he is undefeated, he has been mandatory for a while

props to 6'1 210 lbs Chambers for fighting Klitschko, he deserves it, he had the balls to fight the champion when he got the opportunity, regardless of the fact that he was shut out

[jbpanama]

I think there is a more sinister reason why Atlas will not allow his fighter to fight one of the Klit brothers. I believe it is simply because Atlas hates the brothers so much that his ego will not allow a fighter of his to lose to one them. And he knows that is exactly what would happen regardless of how many more tune up fights Povetkin might have. I would bet good money that there would be no hesitation on the part of Atlas if Povetkin was in line to fight Haye for the WBA belt instead of Wlad or Vitali. And I use to like Atlas but in my opinion he has become rather bizarre.

Atlas is a BOOB, and his comentary and
ability as a trainer lacks CREDABILITY!!!

[Ravens Fan]

I completely agree on one point, Atlas and team Povetkin behaved in a very unprofessional way towards team Wladimir (and the fans)

I disagree when you say Atlas pulled out because his ego won't allow himself to let his fighter get beaten by a Klitschko

Atlas may have an ''obsession'' with the Klits, he does talk a whole lot more about them than he should and pick their opponents to beat them (even when it happens to be clear mismatches)

but we must not forget Atlas is forever linked to the destiny of one of the greatest HW champion ever, Tyson, so maybe he is bitter when he watches those Eastern Europeans dominate while the Americans are just helpless

maybe he just feels it is useless to send Povetkin in a fight he feels he can't win now (or never can win, we're not in his head)

I just don't buy the ego thing

and another thing, I do think that Atlas wouldn't have pulled out Povetkin of a fight against Haye, but not because of his ego, rather because Haye and Klitschko are 2 different animals, Haye does look like a more winnable fight to everybody (smaller fighter, less experience, less difficult to hit, shorter reach, suspect chin, etc.)

I do believe like most people that Povetkin should have grabbed this chance, he's no longer a young man, he is undefeated, he has been mandatory for a while

props to 6'1 210 lbs Chambers for fighting Klitschko, he deserves it, he had the balls to fight the champion when he got the opportunity, regardless of the fact that he was shut out

I still believe his ego played a part in the decision simply because he has a huge one. And now on to a few of your points. I form the following opinion just on what I have read. And with that said I believe that Teddy Atlas's relationship, for what ever reason, with Mike Tyson has taken on a life of its own and has been blown way out of proportion. Because in reality Atlas played a very, minus the gun to head, small part in Tyson's life. Because Atlas was little more then a very part time trainer way back when Tyson was still a child. And I have to ask if you really believe that Atlas has a problems with Eastern European heavyweights why in the world would you suppose he would he be training a Russian? Aren't there any American heavyweights he could be training? Or just maybe this is all part of his master plan. If Povetkin does not fight Wlad that would keep one more Eastern European from getting his shot.

[youngswish23]

I agree with this article 100 percent. Povetkin won a gold medaal in 2004 all that amature experience and your not ready? Look at Andre Ward people were saying he was moving too slow, Atlas included but look at him now a world champion and one of the best fighters in the world. Same with Andre Dirrell, Amir Khan, they all have belts. This is bs Teddy knew Povetkin was going to pull this ****. They sould drop him down in the rankings for pulling this. thats not professional. Him and David Haye both its like what the ****? Step up already.

[The Hammer]

I still believe his ego played a part in the decision simply because he has a huge one. And now on to a few of your points. I form the following opinion just on what I have read. And with that said I believe that Teddy Atlas's relationship, for what ever reason, with Mike Tyson has taken on a life of its own and has been blown way out of proportion. Because in reality Atlas played a very, minus the gun to head, small part in Tyson's life. Because Atlas was little more then a very part time trainer way back when Tyson was still a child. And I have to ask if you really believe that Atlas has a problems with Eastern European heavyweights why in the world would you suppose he would he be training a Russian? Aren't there any American heavyweights he could be training? Or just maybe this is all part of his master plan. If Povetkin does not fight Wlad that would keep one more Eastern European from getting his shot.

I wondered about that right from the time I first read he was training Povetkin. Atlas has always hated East European boxers.

Interestingly, before hiring Atlas, Povetkin was confident enough to want to fight Wladimir. And he was fighting decent opponents like Eddie Chambers and Jason Estrada. Since working with Atlas, he's fought only two clubfighters (Leo Nolan, BoxRec #321 at heavyweight, and Javier Mora who was easily destroyed in round one by Sultan Ibragimov).

Alexander Povetkin has been on the way DOWNHILL ever since hooking up with the poisonous Teddy Atlas.