Comments Thread For: Arum Responds To "Bizarre" Team Mayweather Claim

[Dempsey-Roll]

i cant believe there are still ppl defending floyd with all "not interested in boxing (aka fighting pacquiao)" BS.

If Floyds next opponent ISNT Pac, he is definitely avoiding him. But you guys use your common sense. He's been ducking Pac for a long time now.

[Sugar Q]

Arum and Greenburg are playing games it's clear to anyone with a brain. Ellerbe called both of them on their games now they will play the "to my understanding game" which can always lead to controversy. Arum is a lying ass old snake. Only a ignorant ass ******* will overlook Arum recently stating that he had an agreement with Schaefer and they faxed the contract over to Mayweather then Arum clearly said in his midnite conference call that he NEVER spoke directly to ANYONE in the Mayweather camp and specifically said Schaefer's name was NEVER brought up during his BS negotiating with Greenburg. Both Arum and Greenburg are full of ****.

[Marciano90s]

and ppl still defending pbf..**** boxing is **** to me.these people are really ruining the interest in the sport of boxing.**** it...boxing needs a mma system where everyone face each other without make negotiations or **** like that.thanks god i got over 7000 old bouts to watch..i dont really give a **** about new boxing matchup anymore

[Marciano90s]

Arum and Greenburg are playing games it's clear to anyone with a brain. Ellerbe called both of them on their games now they will play the "to my understanding game" which can always lead to controversy. Arum is a lying ass old snake. Only a ignorant ass ******* will overlook Arum recently stating that he had an agreement with Schaefer and they faxed the contract over to Mayweather then Arum clearly said in his midnite conference call that he NEVER spoke directly to ANYONE in the Mayweather camp and specifically said Schaefer's name was NEVER brought up during his BS negotiating with Greenburg. Both Arum and Greenburg are full of ****.

you didnt even hear or see the midnite conference.stop saying bollocks -.-
when you try to matchup a fight you speak to the promoter of your opponent...Arum does not need to say bollocks,its an his interest to make the fight happen.idiot

[switchsouthpaw]

Arum and Greenburg are playing games it's clear to anyone with a brain. Ellerbe called both of them on their games now they will play the "to my understanding game" which can always lead to controversy. Arum is a lying ass old snake. Only a ignorant ass ******* will overlook Arum recently stating that he had an agreement with Schaefer and they faxed the contract over to Mayweather then Arum clearly said in his midnite conference call that he NEVER spoke directly to ANYONE in the Mayweather camp and specifically said Schaefer's name was NEVER brought up during his BS negotiating with Greenburg. Both Arum and Greenburg are full of
****.

Lol Sugar face it...your boy is getting hammered in the press and deservedly so. This ain't a conspiracy by "the man", no one is out to get him, he put himself in this situation. Arum may be a snake, but he's an educated snake who is successful, you don't have to like him personally, but his track record speaks of success, your boys business acumen is suspect.

[Imhotep]

Well ain't that the biggest question, what's Greenburg gonna do...

Last week Arum was the only scumbag and I was quick to recognize his ploy, just like you.

But now that Ellerbe proved more that what Arum is, calling foul after being quiet the whole time, then what else do we need? Now we got 2 lying scumbags!

Yes. Ross Greenburg's say to all these, and whatever way he want's it, publicly diss Arum, go live worldwide, is what matters and IDGAS. Coz no one knows who's telling the truth.

One thing can be certain, is what Greenburg's gonna do with Floyd, the monster his company created.

Floyds team has been saying there`s no Negotiations going on for weeks.This is the last Article i read them saying that dated june 23rd:



http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Figh...-Pacquiao-pg-3



How is there gonna be negotiations when Floyd said it himself he`s not thinking about boxing right now?

[MidBoss]

since when do you not talk to people who you are negotiating with. At some point, yall have to talk...who sets a deadline to someone you haven't confirmed your dealing with.

1 question, Did floyd hire greenburg to talk on his behalf so how are u going to negotiate with greenburg.

another question, what was actually in the contract? did pacquaio actually agree to the testing demands or where they still trying to push that 19 days spin that USADA implemented?

i think htey were becuase Arum is yet to confirm that pacquiao agreed to full testing nor state whether pacquiao even signed the contract!

1. when you have a mediator.. they don't have to "confirm" they're actually dealing with the other side.. I dont think Greenburg likes playing games..

2. hire Greenburg?? do you even know who he is? You don't hire the HBO Sports Executive when you're a fighter.. NO.. i think you're confused..

3. what was in the contract doesn't matter.. what matters is whether or not Mayweather's representatives agreed to what was in the contract..which they probably did, cuz it got sent to mayweather...
Or, maybe they didn't, but they were definitely negotiating.. It's so OBVIOUS.. Bad move from Ellerbe saying there were never any negotiations.. He practically called Greenburg a liar.. you dont bite the hand that feeds you..

Greenburg is just holding his tongue cause he's still trying to make the fight..

[ThePrince]

For all the clowns questioning why Greenburg would be the intermediary... who else besides the fighters and promoters has a bigger financial stake in the fight happening? HBO aka Greenburg would be the ones financing the thing, organizing the PPV, producing 24/7, etc. Greenburg/HBO could care less who is the bigger draw, what the terms are, who's scared of who... they only care about the financial windfall that would come as a result. Greenburg as the intermediary is ideal because he is neutral, he only favors $.

Oh, and he was heavily involved in the talks of the first failed negotiations...

"Again, we find ourselves in the scenario where we have to have a little bit of luck and both those fighters have to win," said Greenburg, who’s been at HBO since 1978.

This past winter, he was front and center for the collapse of what could have been the biggest fight in boxing. It was a present the television veteran wasn’t expecting.

"It ruined my Christmas vacation, to be honest with you." Greenburg said. "I was on the phone probably four or five hours a day trying to make it happen.
"The fact is that one camp, Pacquiao, wanted 24 days of blood [testing] before the fight, and the other camp wanted 14, and they could never come to a resolution."
...

"We have to find a way as a group, managers, promoters, the fighters themselves, to make that deal happen," Greenburg concluded. "It’s just a must for boxing fans, and the sport itself."

And this is where I checkmate any idiot gullible enough to believe that no negotiations took place this time around. Straight from the horse's mouth...

If the fight the world wants to see - Manny Pacquiao against Floyd Mayweather Jr. - is going to be made, the deal must get done quietly without a lot of posturing in the media. HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg seems determined to make that happen.

But since he has asked the principals, promoters Bob Arum and Richard Schaefer, to remain quiet, Greenburg is reluctant to go into any detail about the status of negotiations for a bout that likely would take place on Nov. 13, the date reserved for Pacquiao's next fight.

"I can't talk about it," Greenburg told Newsday. "I'm right in the middle of shutting everyone down. We have to do it quietly. This cannot get into the papers. If it gets in the papers, all of a sudden, it takes on a life of its own like it did in December and January, and it becomes very difficult to make the fight. We all kind of shook hands and said, 'Let's keep quiet and do it out of the press and get it done.'

"We're going to try to make it happen. That's all I can say."

-JUNE 4, 2010

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...540&nopaging=1

[Sugar Q]

i understand your point, but have you considered how much $$$$ arum will get if pac-floyd gets made? arum is a businessman, do you think he is not really serious in negotiating this fight? arum is a genius mofo, he's very good in this business...his style is similar to floyd...love him or hate him...

no offense, bro, 'am just sharing my thoughts..

but imo, floyd's team messed up on this one, they could have asked a little more time until floyd finished his vacation if he's really just taking a time out for boxing. that negotiation news blackout did not help at all, it just damaged floyd's reputation from the eyes of the boxing fans...a long silence will just be broken that floyd is not interested to fight... it's really dissapointing!

Why would the biggest draw in boxing ask another fighter for permission to do anything? Some of you are so ignorant it's sickening. Arum is gonna use Greenburg as a scapegoat to this BS negotiations that he's knows never happened and people are so blind, prejudice or ****** that they'd rather believe anybody but the Mayweather camp. If I were Floyd I would say **** BOXING too. ****** ass people. Arum can tell yall dumbasses whatever he wants and you'll believe it and he knows it that's why he's selling your dumb asses Pac/Cheato or Pac/Cotto 2. If Arum was so moral and half righteous he would put Pac in with the best challenge not some look how amazing Manny is BS. You got undefeated champions and bonafide challengers calling him out only to get totally ignored then the ******s get online trying to justify it.

[Sugar Q]

Lol Sugar face it...your boy is getting hammered in the press and deservedly so. This ain't a conspiracy by "the man", no one is out to get him, he put himself in this situation. Arum may be a snake, but he's an educated snake who is successful, you don't have to like him personally, but his track record speaks of success, your boys business acumen is suspect.

What press is that? Cause all of the major sites (ESPN,YAHOO,AOL,FHYPE,BGT*LK) are hammering Bob's ass so stop spreading BS. Even Arum's top flunkies are turning on him. Where was your ass when Arum said he sent the contract to Schaefer which they agreed to then where was your ass when Arum forgot his medication and said he never spoke to Schaefer and his name was never brought up. This is not about personally **** dude Im a businessman dont waste your time tryna play on my intelligence it's your dumbass that's tryna defend Arum's lies.