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  • #31
    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
    What can I say? You made an intresting point, I figured he wanted to fight Cotto from the jump rather then Margarito. I felt that since he beat Cotto once, hed set Cotto up with Foreman another top rank fighter, snatch the belt and have Manny go for the 8th title. The same they talked about clottey during the first round of negotiations, they talked about cotto and marg. SO this isnt nothing new to me.

    Bob Arum lied to all of Manny fans... He said that Top Rank and GBP came to an agreement...Bob never talked to GB, he talked to Ross Greenwhoever...since when do we talk to HBO to negatiate fights for FLoyd??

    I dont see how Mannys fans can accept that...Its piss poor to lie like that..
    yep, they know pac isnt in the drivers seat. so i they are trying to make big fights for pac to try and get control of the situation/negotiations.

    and of course, give manny a way to pick up another paperbelt like thats giong to be a bargaining chip(which it wont be.)

    pac/cotto or marg wont do big numbers and people are hip to teh game with the belt chasing.

    if floyd decides to fight Martinez or haymon throws Pwill in there with floyd. but especially Sergio, thats going to do big numbers. and thats just another nail in TR's coffin.

    they dont seem to be open to anyone outside of TR but team floyd have some great options out there. i would love to see FLoyd-Sergio at 160 for the title...that would be huge

    but this is the second time TR have ****ed up trying to gain the upperhand.

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    • #32
      Good thread yesir, green k sent your way!

      I think it is a ploy.

      Arum has not in any way tried to get a fight with Mayweather Jr at all.

      At the end of Mayweather Jr vs Mosley - Floyd said "all Pacquaio has to do is take the tests and we got a fight"

      I find it odd that Arum has not come out and stated issues on 'drug testing' during the second round of "supposed" negotiations.

      Due to the fact that he seems to dodge the question of drug testing every time he's asked, I 'definitely' don't think he's met this demand from Mayweather Jr.

      Thus making me believe that he hasn't tried to make a fight at all.

      PS. The writer of Bob Arum's : Done Deal nailed what is currently going on here.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Walterson View Post
        Good thread yesir, green k sent your way!

        I think it is a ploy.

        Arum has not in any way tried to get a fight with Mayweather Jr at all.

        At the end of Mayweather Jr vs Mosley - Floyd said "all Pacquaio has to do is take the tests and we got a fight"

        I find it odd that Arum has not come out and stated issues on 'drug testing' during the second round of "supposed" negotiations.

        Due to the fact that he seems to dodge the question of drug testing every time he's asked, I 'definitely' don't think he's met this demand from Mayweather Jr.

        Thus making me believe that he hasn't tried to make a fight at all.

        PS. The writer of Bob Arum's : Done Deal nailed what is currently going on here.
        props man, i agree

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
          If you find Arum as a complete liar, then you don't have to create conspiracy theories like this in the first place because you have nothing to begin with if you don't even trust the same guy who's the leading role in your own telenovela.
          What u mean "IF" he finds Bob to be a liar??? I thought Bob said negotiations were complete between Goldenboy & TopRank? our understanding was Floyd was the only person holdin it up...Come to find out GB nor Floyd had ever been contacted, which means...THEY NEVER SENT FLOYD A CONTRACT....do u not get it?? theres no IFS

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          • #35
            Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
            What u mean "IF" he finds Bob to be a liar??? I thought Bob said negotiations were complete between Goldenboy & TopRank? our understanding was Floyd was the only person holdin it up...Come to find out GB nor Floyd had ever been contacted, which means...THEY NEVER SENT FLOYD A CONTRACT....do u not get it?? theres no IFS
            this.................

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            • #36
              Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
              What u mean "IF" he finds Bob to be a liar??? I thought Bob said negotiations were complete between Goldenboy & TopRank? our understanding was Floyd was the only person holdin it up...Come to find out GB nor Floyd had ever been contacted, which means...THEY NEVER SENT FLOYD A CONTRACT....do u not get it?? theres no IFS

              Well.

              If your stand is Arum is a liar, and he sent a contract to Floyd, then by that premise, it's also possible he didn't. He's a liar, isn't he?

              I think you're the one who doesn't get my point.

              But if you wanna turn everything in Floyd's favor, then I'd understand where you come from, plain nuthugging. Just say Arum's not a liar and you believe him then you're B-level ayt.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post

                Well.

                If your stand is Arum is a liar, and he sent a contract to Floyd, then by that premise, it's also possible he didn't. He's a liar, isn't he?

                I think you're the one who doesn't get my point.

                But if you wanna turn everything in Floyd's favor, then I'd understand where you come from, plain nuthugging. Just say Arum's not a liar and you believe him then you're B-level ayt.
                Okay maybe i'm not saying this right because for some reason your brain isnt picking it up properly. Read this out loud & slow. Bob....Arum....said...negotiations...were...comple te....GB...&...Top Rank...have...come..up...with..an..agreement....pa per...work....has...been... sent...to...Floyd Mayweather....to...sign...off...now...let...the... count..down begin.


                Bob Arum in his own words said "I never talked to Mayweather or GB"..."I figured they knew about it"??? So how can they agree if they never talked, thus there couldnt have been a contract??

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by PrinceCharlez View Post
                  Okay maybe i'm not saying this right because for some reason your brain isnt picking it up properly. Read this out loud & slow. Bob....Arum....said...negotiations...were...comple te....GB...&...Top Rank...have...come..up...with..an..agreement....pa per...work....has...been... sent...to...Floyd Mayweather....to...sign...off...now...let...the... count..down begin.


                  Bob Arum in his own words said "I never talked to Mayweather or GB"..."I figured they knew about it"??? So how can they agree if they never talked, thus there couldnt have been a contract??

                  LOL so you want me to selectively pick out what's Arum's lie and what's not?

                  That's it, you an IDIOT! THis post is sucha ****ing contradiction of the poster itself and his useless point hahaha!

                  My brain's just fine, you might wanna check yours, that's exactly what double standards is!
                  Last edited by Tamis!; 07-17-2010, 04:31 PM.

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                  • #39
                    AhahhAHAHAHAHHA ****ing trolls like yesir and charles actually want to believe this **** dont they ? hahahah o man they are getting so desperate .

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by andre the giant View Post
                      AhahhAHAHAHAHHA ****ing trolls like yesir and charles actually want to believe this **** dont they ? hahahah o man they are getting so desperate .
                      Prince and the revolution wanted people to believe Arum's a liar but wanted people to selectively choose the ones that are apparently NOT LIES to defend Floyd!

                      ****in' ****** idiot!

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