BERNABE CONCEPTION= Manny Pacquiao w/o Special Blended “Power Shakes”??

[Horus]

I guess your last phrase should be the thread title instead:


"DO YOU GUYS THINK BERNABE PERFORMANCE ON SATURDAY AGAINST JUAN MA, PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THE FLAWS OF PACQUIAO’S OFFENSE?"


I don't get it why you have to add the "steroid" part at all to the thread title when it's so far fetched to what you're actually asking.

Anyways we already know pac's flaws. When he throws the left he puts too much leverage to it thus he will be too slow to cover up his left face. That's why he was a sucker for jmm's right counters. But somehow pac compensates with his hand and foot speed plus power. On those attributes bernabe doe'sn't have.

To the question, "does it exposes pac's flaws?" (given that's your question) The answer is Nope coz we already know his flaws way back before. Jmm has that blueprint and so was EM. Plus Jmm is pac's kryptonite: he knows pac very well and he is the best counterpuncher of this generation period.

Because we can identify Pacquiao's flaw doesnt mean it is still not interesting to see the spotlight on them when another fighter try's mimic his style.

[Horus]

If Conception was like Pac, so how come I didn't see any punch combinations in there? Isn't Pac well known for his combinations? Yeah this forum has gotten to craphole.

did you even watch the fight?

Like I told Ryno, the reason why Bernabe wasnt able to copy Pacquiao fighting style too a tee is because he couldnt speed Juan Ma up.

Like I just wrote,

I would label Pacquiao style off fighting to a bubble bee.
"A bee is never as busy as it seems; it's just that it can't buzz any slower."

What that means in relation to Pacquiao IMO, is that alot of Pacquiao's offense similiar to a bee's is looking for a way in and a way out and a way back in

The beauty of what he does is that Fighters get so caught up with him just moving around that they dont realise that he is not moving as fast as it seems, he is actually making the other fighter speed up their tempo so the one punch that Pacquiao would be the most vunerable too Pacquiao which is a "STIFF TIMED JAB" will be none existent because the fight has fell into the trap of trying move at the tempo of the bee. (JMM,Cotto, Morales) Therefore, eliminating their most effective weapon which is meeting pacquiao speed with a "WAITING JAB"


Juan Ma deserves alot of credit for staying calm, relax, and boxing great.
because he too could have fell victim to speed up pace that favor's pacquiao style of fighting.

[Horus]

i may agree with some of your observations but comparing bernabe with manny having the same style...nah..'totally disagree..but i respect your opinion, perhaps we're looking at different angles.

duly noted, All i am here to do is give my opinion.

[Horus]

Paulie Malignaggi= Mayweather without the special blended "guido shakes"

One Problem,
Mayweather is undefeated.

[Horus]

What a **** thread, your just a hater horus.... Bernabe has similar athletic ability and power to Manny but he lacks the tenacity and focus when he's in the ring.

Obviously you didnt read the Opening post.

[Horus]

Pacman bounces more, is on his toes more. ALso bounces side to side and in and out whilst punching. It may seem like a small diference, but it is actually much larger than you think when in combat.

he also is more active. Bernabe does a lot of side to side head movement from a peek a boo ala pacman but pac keeps his hands moving more, putting a straight left or jab out to head or body whilst doing so to keep his opponent guessing.

Sure.. a small change, but drastic when in combat.

Being much faster then your opponent is huge too which pacman usually is both in hand and foot. This is actually something huge.

pacman after attacking doesn't sit there too much longer before stepping bouncing out, Concepcion stays in the pocket a bit too long.

Also, the punches aren't the same. Pacman isn't a wide puncher.. infact.. he's a 1-2-1-2-1-2 kind of guy. Picture Martinez/Pavlik round 9 to 12... Martinez pulled out teh 1-2-1-2 combo over and over... that's pretty much pac virtually all fight plus the occasional hook around (around=body) or overhand up type (occasional upper, too).

The stances and fundamentals look very simular but there's a lot of thigns going on with pacman that although don't look that huge on paper, are incredible in the ring

Bernarbe also doesnt attract the ring respect Pacquiao does either.
For Bernarge to be successful he is going to have to Soeed up his tempo, so he can speed up his opponents tempo.

[Ravishing]

Shouldn't the title of the thread be "Doesn't Concepcion fight similarly to Pacquiao"?

I guess adding the "Special Blends" or "Power Shakes" is gonna get people talking.

[Horus]

Shouldn't the title of the thread be "Doesn't Concepcion fight similarly to Pacquiao"?

I guess adding the "Special Blends" or "Power Shakes" is gonna get people talking.

lol, you are starting to see the light my friend...

[Chuckguy]

So Floyd without the numbing solution = Junior Jones?

no
its paulie malinaggi

[Horus]

What a **** thread, your just a hater horus.... Bernabe has similar athletic ability and power to Manny but he lacks the tenacity and focus when he's in the ring.

you agree with me that they are similar but than u say the thread is ****?