BERNABE CONCEPTION= Manny Pacquiao w/o Special Blended “Power Shakes”??

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  • Horus
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    BERNABE CONCEPTION= Manny Pacquiao w/o Special Blended “Power Shakes”??

    BERNABE CONCEPTION = Manny Pacquiao w/o Special Blended “Power Shakes”??

    Ok guys I know hate will come by me making this comparison, but come on the similarities are there. Both worked with Roach, both from the Philippines, Both used the same kind of foot work, and neither of get confuse for a defensive specialist.

    Just rewatching the Juan Ma fight had me thinking of the old analogy that goes
    “It is always easy to teach Offense rather than Defense. Fundamentally, It requires less work, and the results are much faster."

    This is why Fighters improve so rapidly with Freddie Roach is such a short period of time.
    (JCC jr., Khan, Bernabe, and the list goes on)

    Because the focus is primarly on offense and not defense. And obviously these fighters want quick results, and they are paying Roach for instant results.

    However as we saw on Saturday night, The downfall of not having a Fundamental defensive foundation as a boxer is when you fight a fighter who’s offense can match your offense and who defense is good enough to survive your offense. You find yourself defenseless and helpless.

    IMO, BERNABE CONCEPTION did not do anything against Juan Ma that he hasn’t done before, and Juan Ma did not do anything that Conception hasn’t seen before. The problem for Conception was Juan Ma had more fundamentals to his arsenal than Bernabe, AND Juan Ma “TIMED” Bernabe perfectly. Bernabe punches came wide, Juan Ma punches were short.

    As I watch this fight I kept getting reminded of Pacquiao’s style and what gave him trouble. Morales,JMM, and Cotto Style when they boxed gave Pacquiao fits. WHY???
    Because their punches were short, straight, and perfectly timed. ALA, JUAN MA v.s CONCEPTION
    With that said, Share your thoughts.

    DO YOU GUYS THINK BERNABE PERFORMANCE ON SATURDAY AGAINST JUAN MA, PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THE FLAWS OF PACQUIAO’S OFFENSE?


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    Last edited by Horus; 07-12-2010, 04:10 PM.
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    Freddie Roach refused to train Bernabe because Bernabe has no future. He's a Buboy Fernandez material.

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    • Horus
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      #3



      Juan Manuel Lopez vs Bernabe Concepcion

      JUST LOOK AT THE STYLE!!!

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      • SugarRayCurtain
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        #4
        well, hes not a southpaw for a start so the comparison is ridiculous

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        • Horus
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          Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
          well, hes not a southpaw for a start so the comparison is ridiculous
          That the only difference in my opinion. just look at their styles.
          Both worked with Roach, both from the Philippines, Both used the same kind of foot work, and neither of get confuse for a defensive specialist.

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          • street bully
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            #6
            So Floyd without the numbing solution = Junior Jones?

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            • Horus
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              #7
              Originally posted by Chups
              Freddie Roach refused to train Bernabe because Bernabe has no future. He's a Buboy Fernandez material.
              Roach used to work with him, you can not deny that. He worked with him as recently as the Steven Luevano fight, which was last august.

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              • Horus
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                #8
                Originally posted by street bully
                So Floyd without the numbing solution = Junior Jones?
                Floyd w/o numbing solution = Undefeated
                case closed.

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                • Chups
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                  Originally posted by Horus
                  That the only difference in my opinion. just look at their styles.
                  Both worked with Roach, both from the Philippines, Both used the same kind of foot work, and neither of get confuse for a defensive specialist.
                  Out of 34 fights, Concepcion had only worked with Roach on about 5 fights.

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                  • BoxingTech718
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                    #10
                    You dude you know they're trying to figure out how to red k you in real life as we speak lol!

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