Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

[Vadrigar.]

Who knows? What I do know is that the idea that Manny can't take a test because he's training hard is too hilarious for words. Except it's also infuriating. The fools who support these crap are even worse.

Ok then lets turn back to the other argument:

I just did. I think it's pretty sad these kind of theories are what we have to delve into.

where?

[AFighter4U]

Please explain the difference. Are the PEDs Conte mentioned as being effective during intense training NOT effective during heavy training? .

See, that's your problem. You easily reconcile your stating Manny was into "very intense training" when he only said he was into "heavy" training.

But you CANNOT reconcile Manny's into "heavy" training while supposedly winding down. You make allowances only when it suits your agenda. And its sad really that you'd have to rely on such a pathetic move to try to prove your point.

AGAIN, when it comes to boxers, they use EPO to train harder. If they can just juice up to gain an immediate advantage, why not juice up to THE DAY OF THE FIGHT?

Answer me this. Why did Mosley stop taking EPO a few days before the fight? Why didn't he juice up until the fight night?

[IMDAZED]

Ok then lets turn back to the other argument:



where?

When I said you're reaching harder than Dhalsim what I meant was that it takes a lot of faith, hope and guesswork to make your theory plausible.

[IMDAZED]

See, that's your problem. You easily reconcile your stating Manny was into "very intense training" when he only said he was into "heavy" training.

But you CANNOT reconcile Manny's into "heavy" training while supposedly winding down. You make allowances only when it suits your agenda. And its sad really that you'd have to rely on such a pathetic move to try to prove your point.

AGAIN, when it comes to boxers, they use EPO to train harder. If they can just juice up to gain an immediate advantage, why not juice up to THE DAY OF THE FIGHT?

Answer me this. Why did Mosley stop taking EPO a few days before the fight? Why didn't he juice up until the fight night?

This is hilarious.

Please provide proof that boxers only use EPO to train harder.

Second, please define "a few days" for Mosley. Specifically.

[Vadrigar.]

When I said you're reaching harder than Dhalsim what I meant was that it takes a lot of faith, hope and guesswork to make your theory plausible.

In that case the statements contradict. How does that solve anything?

Roiding will only help if heavy training is accompanied with it.

If you believe roaches statement then there is no overlap with the cut off date.

If you believe mannys statement then there is an overlap.

[IMDAZED]

In that case the statements contradict. How does that solve anything?

Roiding will only help if heavy training is accompanied with it.

Not necessarily, D33P. Some steroids yes, not all PEDs.

[BattlingNelson]

To Afighter4u: Are you still claiming that there's no significant benefit by using PED's in the 14days up to a fight?

[Jack3d]

it will NOT be detectable in the URINE if they are USING MASKING AGENTS. how do you think shane got away without getting caught?

You think there are masking agents that control how much RBC's are produced by your Kidney's? Hahahahaha

Idiot

NO, you are wrong!

if you take EPO, you are blood doping


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_doping

But it's not the same.

EPO is not effective in two weeks time. Period.

[Carpe Diem]

Floyd did not make up the USADA "rules". USADA simply and clearly do not believe in nor will they entertain "cut-off" dates.

Is that so difficult to understand?

Isn't it better to address that question to a USADA representative and get a straight answer from the source?

No. It's Floyd's agency and he controls it.

[BattlingNelson]

You think there are masking agents that control how much RBC's are produced by your Kidney's? Hahahahaha

Idiot




But it's not the same.

EPO is not effective in two weeks time. Period.

Yes it is. Period.