Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

[IMDAZED]

Despite being a dirty rotten scumbag Conte knows his PED's. I'm amazed that some people in this thread just wont acknowledge the facts. I guess that's NSB for ya'.

I feel bad for Pacquiao's fans. They shouldn't have to be put in this position - arguing when PEDs are effective, inventing theories and possibilities, compiling guesswork, etc..

In the end, the PED problem will continue to linger, particular in a sport where the commissions look the other way and the fans search for excuses for a fighter who has none. Everybody loses.

[AFighter4U]

I'll give you the link. Quotes are from the video in this thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=403622

Thank you D33P! i appreciate the link.

[AFighter4U]

So in other words, it's counter productive.

EXACTLY! But i'm logging out now. Nothing else i can say will change their minds anyway. I've done what i could and i guess its up to them to believe what they wish to, no matter how illogical.

[BattlingNelson]

I feel bad for Pacquiao's fans. They shouldn't have to be put in this position - arguing when PEDs are effective, inventing theories and possibilities, compiling guesswork, etc..

In the end, the PED problem will continue to linger, particular in a sport where the commissions look the other way and the fans search for excuses for a fighter who has none. Everybody loses.

Yeah. The way I see it after Mayweathers proposal boxing lost it's ******ity. By that I mean there's no turning back now. I think the ONLY way to restore credibility is to install random testing for all title fights. It doesn't matter if there is a problem or not. It's just the way it is.

[Jack3d]

Despite being a dirty rotten scumbag Conte knows his PED's. I'm amazed that some people in this thread just wont acknowledge the facts. I guess that's NSB for ya'.

Actually Conte isn't the expert. He's just Balco's public face.

The real genius behind the PED's coming out of BACLO was Patrick Arnold, their lead Chemist who also invented 1-AD. He served time in the jail for creating THG and Epitest among other PED's they were peddling out of Balco.

The only thing Conte invented was ZMA.

[IMDAZED]

Yeah. The way I see it after Mayweathers proposal boxing lost it's ******ity. By that I mean there's no turning back now. I think the ONLY way to restore credibility is to install random testing for all title fights. It doesn't matter if there is a problem or not. It's just the way it is.

Yeah, I don't think Floyd should go back on it either. You're giving a little blood, not a handjob. If Manny is so freaked out over a blood test that he'd rather fight Cotto again then to take it then **** him.

[| THE KING |]

I feel bad for Pacquiao's fans. They shouldn't have to be put in this position - arguing when PEDs are effective, inventing theories and possibilities, compiling guesswork, etc..

In the end, the PED problem will continue to linger, particular in a sport where the commissions look the other way and the fans search for excuses for a fighter who has none. Everybody loses.

I feel bad for Mayweather fans. They shouldn't have to be put in this position - making excuses as to why mayweather is hiding (when the biggest fight of his career (legacy & money wise) is on the table, excuses for drug tests against an overrated fighter that lacks boxing skills (admitted by mayweather), starting threads just to discredit manny, typing up essays to excuse mayweathers demand http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=404501, etc..


I also want to end this PED problem, but YEAR ROUND is the way to go.

Tygart:



"Q: One other thing I wanted to touch base with you on -- when the Mayweather-Pacquiao discussions finally fell apart at the beginning of the month, it came down to a 10-day differential; Mayweather bent to 'I'll agree to 14 days prior to the event when there will be no blood testing,' and Pacquiao wouldn't go later than 24 days. Even if Mayweather had yielded to 24 days, what can an athlete do in 24 days? I mean, if you're clean 24 days before the fight, what can you do in the next 24 days that would have any impact on the fight whatsoever?

A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."


Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?

A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."

Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?

A: "I mean, we do no notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."

Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?

A: "Yep, all that."

Q: If I knew 10 minutes before test, could I mask it?

A: "Yep. If you had some urine and a Whizzinator, 10 minutes before, you could mask it. If you had a catheter, which is not that tough to do, you could do it."

Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?

A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not.""

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/index.ssf/2010/01/usadas_travis_tygart_current_d.html

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Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?

A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."[/I]

How is it detected?

[| THE KING |]

How is it detected?

Ask Tygart. I'm giving you quotes from the USADA spokesperson himself.

[IMDAZED]

Ask Tygart. I'm giving you quotes from the USADA spokesperson himself.

I gave you quotes from the guy who beat his system.