Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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  • Dick Buffman
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    #241
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    its also scientific fact that training at high altitudes boost red bloodcells, therefore increasing oxygen levels. should training at high altitudes be banned???
    Thats not the point of contention. Its all the other superpowers synthetic designer drugs give you.

    Like the ability to train 9 hours straight.

    **** like that.

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      #242
      Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
      training at high altitude is the same as taking synthetic drugs now?



      Dealing with morons..........

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        #243
        Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
        training at high altitude is the same as taking synthetic drugs now?

        referring to his post of EPO?

        YES


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          #244
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          Ur comparing 2 different sports... its like apples n oranges. So far, as we know it, steroids has never turned an average boxer into a dynamo. Vargas used roids, but still got stopped by dlh. Shane used roids, but had a worst performance against dlh when he did. We don't have one case where roids turned an average boxer into a great boxer.
          Terrible, on all levels.

          Vargas being stopped doesn't mean the PED didn't help him. He was a huge underdog in the first place. He was coming off a terrible performance against a sparring partner where he had been buzzed and, prior to that, was dropped and seriously hurt by the light-hitting, faded Wilfredo Rivera. And he comes out and gives Oscar De La Hoya HELL until he was hurt by the left hook in the late rounds. It was a huge improvement in performance.

          Another example that you are simply a Johnny Come Lately is saying Shane had a bad performance against Oscar. Compared to what? His last fight? Where he might've won one round (out of three) against Raul Marquez in a fight that ended up being a no decision? Or the two fights before that where he...LOST. The performance against Oscar that second time may not look great now but it was his best performance in YEARS. Some of you really need to fall back.

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            #245
            NEWSFLASH!!!


            PED's enhance performance in every sport. Cycling, swimming, sprinting, baseball, weight lifting, shot putting, discus, javelin, rugby, football even snooker.......but not BOXING

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              #246
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Terrible, on all levels.

              Vargas being stopped doesn't mean the PED didn't help him. He was a huge underdog in the first place. He was coming off a terrible performance against a sparring partner where he had been buzzed and, prior to that, was dropped and seriously hurt by the light-hitting, faded Wilfredo Rivera. And he comes out and gives Oscar De La Hoya HELL until he was hurt by the left hook in the late rounds. It was a huge improvement in performance.

              Another example that you are simply a Johnny Come Lately is saying Shane had a bad performance against Oscar. Compared to what? His last fight? Where he might've won one round (out of three) against Raul Marquez in a fight that ended up being a no decision? Or the two fights before that where he...LOST. The performance against Oscar that second time may not look great now but it was his best performance in YEARS. Some of you really need to fall back.


              They think because a boxer or an athlete lost it means PED's aren't effective.

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                #247
                Originally posted by -veteran420-
                referring to his post of EPO?

                YES




                Will HAT raise your hematocrit to the same level as a synthetic blood booster??

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by check hook
                  Will HAT raise your hematocrit to the same level as a synthetic blood booster??
                  depends on altitude... length of training....


                  dose of med..

                  individual factors..

                  too many variables for YOU to know!!!

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by check hook
                    Dealing with morons..........
                    Yeah, real Grade A types too.

                    Originally posted by -veteran420-
                    referring to his post of EPO?

                    YES


                    I rest my case.

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Saucy Jacky
                      He left out FudgePacky.

                      Originally posted by check hook
                      They think because a boxer or an athlete lost it means PED's aren't effective.

                      I wish you people would come up with winning examples so all boxers could try peds and not give us **** fights where they are hanging on trying to survive for 3 rounds.

                      All the examples I see are fighters that lost using peds.

                      We need winners on PEDS SO the sport moves to legalize them.

                      PEDS can be a great pyschological boost for some guys, and I haven't seen it in boxing, but a great boost in the fight itself.


                      WE NEED WINNERS ON PEDS.... so everyone can enjoy what mankind has created....

                      peds.

                      So ALL OF THE SUPER SIX can take them, and if what some people are saying is true, give us spectacular fights.





                      PEDS FTW!

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