Whose legacy will be hurt more if THE FIGHT fails to push through? Pac or Floyd jr?

[empiricix]

When today is viewed by future generations through the foggy prism of history, only one thing will be remembered about each boxer: Pacquiao's unbelievable championships in 7 weight divisions, the only boxer to have done so; and Mayweather's unfulfilled potential as one of the most talented boxers in history.

All other issues such as OST demands, PPV buys, quality of opposition, etc. will no longer be remembered.

[check hook]

Do u suspect Mayweather would of undergone OST without trepidation had Pac insinuated he! was on drugs?

Look how much of a tug of war there has been over the negotiations, and most of it has been about their bruised ego's, Mayweather's ego is particularly big, we know this.

Bottom line is, Mayweather's claim are baseless, thats one fact that you cant change no matter how much you try to fudge the issue.

For $50 million you bet your ass. Do you think the media would have given him a pass the way they did Pacquaio if he didn't?

NO!!....... it was baseless. Put yourself in his shoes, he already thinks Pac is on something. Manny acting the way he has, turning fown $50 million over random OST, an easy process he himself has now gone through, surely it solidifies his belief that Pac is on something.....just as surely as it makes his "initially" baseless claims no longer baseless.

[omarinbox]

When today is viewed by future generations through the foggy prism of history, only one thing will be remembered about each boxer: Pacquiao's unbelievable championships in 7 weight divisions, the only boxer to have done so; and Mayweather's unfulfilled potential as one of the most talented boxers in history.

All other issues such as OST demands, PPV buys, quality of opposition, etc. will no longer be remembered.

Money has more HBO fights. They'll be remembered.

Pac dodging Shane will be remembered.

And the big money draw just like Ali, Tyson, Robinson, Hagler and Leonard will be remembered.

[Dynamite Kid]

For $50 million you bet your ass. Do you think the media would have given him a pass the way they did Pacquaio if he didn't?

NO!!....... it was baseless. Put yourself in his shoes, he already thinks Pac is on something. Manny acting the way he has, turning fown $50 million over random OST, an easy process he himself has now gone through, surely it solidifies his belief that Pac is on something.....just as surely as it makes his "initially" baseless claims no longer baseless.

Well you will say that wont you? yet Pac has agreed to testing to so many days out, yet despite this Floyd is still willing to leave the fight in jeopardy and take a chance that Pac might wash his hands of the whole thing and Mayweather will lose out on the opportunity to make that 50 mil, so you see whether Pac is guilty or not, it just shows how much trepidation there is on Floyd's part to make the fight, because if i could make that much cash and dramatically enhance my legacy, id let Pac have a cut off period. Fact is Mayweather is not all about the money, never has been, he walked away from the sport when he could of rematch DLH, Floyd's "0" mean everything to him.

It aint just about OST with Mayweather, its also about his ego, and his balls, this is man who threw any conceivable props he might of got for beaten Marquez out the window( at the weight in), all for the sake of a few extra pounds to gain even more!! of an advantage than he already had.


Who cares whether he thought Pac was on something, he had no base to make his INITIAL claims, but still made them and demanded testing, therefore they are baseless.

[check hook]

Money has more HBO fights. They'll be remembered.

Pac dodging Shane will be remembered.

And the big money draw just like Ali, Tyson, Robinson, Hagler and Leonard will be remembered.

people seem to discount that.....at the end of the day their is more ppl paying to see Mayweather...no matter what excuses are offered this is the undeniable truth.

[Ray*]

You know what i mean, generally is swept under the carpet.

Ray, your a closet Mayweather fanboy you are, i knew you would come with the "both have a lot to lose", but only because you know how badly Mayweather needs this fight, being that your a Mayweather fanboy deep down.

Get your facts right am a *****!!! And both fighters have something to lose period! You can rick Pac all you want, And Hate on Mayweather all you want but history would judge both fighters the same for not making the fight happen, And both fighters legacy suffers the same for the fight not coming off

[STRUGG]

floyd..........anyone who says otherwise is a *****............bar none

[fcastro1]

I didnt see it that way,Good post bro.I can see people talking about
the fight that never happend.Fans are gonna ask why it didnt happen.
The answer-Manny refused blood test.In a steroids era.

actually pac accepted so there is no more excuses.

[fcastro1]

Pacquiao.

He doesnt fight Floyd hes a PED user. PERIOD.

congratulations you have replaced leanord elerbee as the number 1 ***** with that statement. well done.

[check hook]

Well you will say that wont you? yet Pac has agreed to testing to so many days out, yet despite this Floyd is still willing to leave the fight in jeopardy and take a chance that Pac might wash his hands of the whole thing and Mayweather will lose out on the opportunity to make that 50 mil, so you see whether Pac is guilty or not, it just shows how much trepidation there is on Floyd's part to make the fight, because if i could make that much cash and dramatically enhance my legacy id let Pac have a cut off period. Fact is Mayweather is not all about the money, never has been, he walked away from the sport when he could of rematch DLH, Floyd's "0" mean everything to him.

It aint just about OST with Mayweather, its also about his ego, and his balls, this is man who threw any conceivable props he might of got for beaten Marquez out the window( at the weight in), all for the sake of a few extra pounds to gain even more!! of an advantage than he already had.


Who cares whether he thought Pac was on something, he had not base to make his INITIAL claims, but still made them and demanded testing, therefore they are baseless.

Pac initialy wanted a 30 day cut-off, then a 24 day cut-off. This was during the midst of some downright silly excuses why he couldn't submit himself to OST. We know undoubtedly testing must be random to be effective, that's not up for debate or discussion anymore as far as any rational and intelligent individual is concerned.

OST contrary to how Arum wanted it to look was known about in mid December. It was not a stipulation that Team Mayweather "sprang" at the 11th hour of negotiations to stymie the fight. Team Mayweather offered PAc a 14day cut-off in January as a compromise. Team Pacquaio initially denied they were ever offered a 14 day cut-off and subsequently recanted that afterr the "impartial" mediator, a friend of Bob Arum openly questioned their recollection of what was said in mediation. So the question becomes, why did Team PAcquaio feel the need to lie about a 14 day cut off being offered??

The point in bold is utterly laughable. Oscar lost 8 rds the first time. As if he would do better against a "counterpuncher" in a rematch? The ODLH vs Floyd fight wasn't even close. The rematch didn't happen because Oscar wanted the same deal as before. A deal that was no longer viable as Mayweather had beaten him, and more importantly proven he was the second biggest drawcard in the sport. Besides being laughable, this point and the point about JMM have othing to do with the topic we are discussing at hand. I could also point out Pac's history of imposing extraordinary penalties on fighters cutting weight, also taking some shine off his victories.

Sadly you are like the rest of the Pac fans here.....you don't seem to understand all of your logic is easily applied in the other direction.


For the last point, ii covered that alredy, but let me just leave you with this to think about..........

Why does the NSAC and other state commissions bother testing for PED's at all??? After all they too have no basis to think certain fighters are using PED's---> so why do they test. Aren't their reasons for testing also baseless if we use your logic?