Your gut feeling Manny - Floyd

[any craic lad?]

Fair enough. Most Pac and Floyd fans can't debate this fight at all really. Just always dumb stuff like "MANNY is the best he stops BOY in 3" or "Floyd is God". I never see people try to break it down.

I told another smart Pac fan. That if Pac is ready to accept that in this fight he will take more punishment than he has in any other fight. Then he's ready to win. I saw something in the Clottey fight and thats how easy he bruised up. His face took alot of damage. Maybe Floyd can get a cut and a some swelling going.

Pacquiao will have to show a side of him that we havent seen yet to beat Mayweather. If Roach and him are down we'll get a great fight.

Thats the worst when they start bringing in that **** about 1st round knockout its ridiculous.I just cant wait please god Floyd will sign on the dotted line but then the **** talk will really begin haha

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Do you honestly believe Pacquiao will just stand there and flinch for 10 rounds the way Mosley did? I don't even know how many punches Shane threw in the last 10 rounds, but I wouldn't be surprised if Pacquiao threw more punches in two rounds against Clottey than Shane threw in the last 10 against PBF.

Shane did throw his fair share of punches though. Nothing after the 2nd round landed.

I never said Pac would just flinch. He will try to fight back. It will fail though.

I broke the fight down here.

Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

BUT.....

Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

Lastly...

Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

[JK1700]

Shane did throw his fair share of punches though. Nothing after the 2nd round landed.

I never said Pac would just flinch. He will try to fight back. It will fail though.

I broke the fight down here.

Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

BUT.....

Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

Lastly...

Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

Excellent post. Co-sign

[badass316]

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No there will be no slug fest. When I say drag Pac into a fight I mean Drag Pac into just HIM wanting to throw a bunch of punches when in reality due to the styles Pac should be the one moving and letting Floyd throw. When Floyd comes forward hes not trowing a million punches. Hes still smart about it.

Well you worded it poorly then. Sounds to me what you meant to say was that PBF will be trying to bait Pacquiao into letting his hands go so he can counter him while being economical with his punch output (like always).

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Some odd reason?? How many times have you watched the fight? I saw it so many times I lost count. There was no odd reason. It was a clear reason. Shane has NO defense and Floyd exploited it. Shane had no idea what Floyd was going to throw. Shane has no defense for jabs or right hands and Floyd couldnt miss him.

What does Shane's defense have to do with him not letting his hands go? I'm sure both he (Shane) and ****m expected that he'd get hit in the fight regardless of the outcome. So why just stand there, depriving yourself a way to win the fight, and not throw punches. He didn't have a problem letting his hands go in the 2nd round, and PBF hit him with clean shots in that round. I see no reasons why he couldn't let them go in rounds 3-12.

I can easily say "If Clottey was actually letting his hands go, I seriously doubt PAC would have been able to walk him down the majority of the fight"

But that would be silly wouldnt it? Shane throwing more just wouldve got him countered more. And actually if you watch he did let his hands go nothing landed after the 2nd round. Clottey throwing more wouldve got him KO'd.

If Clottey let his hands go, he would have been staring at the lights (or the stars if they had the roof open). Pacquiao wouldn't have had to walk him down the entire fight. The difference is though, Clottey would have at least given himself a chance to win the fight. Instead he made himself look like a coward, not only to the boxing community but his country.

Shane throwing more would have at least given himself a chance to win the fight instead of just standing there flinching. He would have gotten hit more sure, but he was getting hit anyway so what difference would it have made? PBF can land 500 punches on him and he's still not getting knocked out.

[badass316]

Shane did throw his fair share of punches though. Nothing after the 2nd round landed.

I never said Pac would just flinch. He will try to fight back. It will fail though.

I broke the fight down here.
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Yes, I already read your breakdown. Basically it sums up to PBF to being an einstein and will derive a formula to solve the problem that is Pacquiao.

Nothing landed because he was reluctant to throw. I don't feel like scrolling through the entire fight and jotting down Shane's punch output, but I clearly remember it decreasing with each passing round. It got so bad that ****m had to make Shane repeat was he was saying that he would throw punches.

Well you and I differ on the outcome of when Pacquiao does let his hands go against PBF. You think he'll fail, I believe otherwise.

[nujabes77]

my gut feeling says that pac will beat floyd easy...

its very hard to outbox someone faster and stronger than you. and pac has polished his style/technique



i think floyd feels the same way as well thats why he is pushing hard for the ost. he is trying to avoid the fight in any way he can

[nujabes77]

Shane did throw his fair share of punches though. Nothing after the 2nd round landed.

I never said Pac would just flinch. He will try to fight back. It will fail though.

I broke the fight down here.

Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

BUT.....

Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

Lastly...

Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

thought this ******ed kid retired as a poster...


retire as a poster? what kinda ******ed **** si that

[qwerty07]

I think it's a positive that so many people are doubting PAC, because his win will be even greater as it will send shockwaves throughout the boxing world, and may propel him to be GOAT one day in the eyes of the experts. A great champion is one who excels through doubt and adversity, and PAC career since Diaz has been that way. I don't know who has the edge and I don't pretend to. This match is as close to 50/50 as a boxing fight will get, which is why so many people want to see it. All I know is, whoever wins, IF IT IS A DECISIVE WIN, will be the most skilled boxer of the era.

[neoz]

Gut feeling?
Floyd will get hurt in this fight, guaranteed.
I like the left hook that zab used to hit floyd when floyd went for the straight right jab. Floyd got tag many times.
Problem is Pacman Left hook is like a monster truck running over your face.

Floyd chin is overrated. He got the best defensive in the game but saying his chin is great is a joke.

[maguirre]

My gut feeling is Floyd would KO Manny when he's on the ropes.

BUT, the way Floyd has been stalling this fight, I have to go by his guts.